Talk:Abi Branning

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Why has the inferior 2007 image been put on here. The other one was from not much later than that anyway.  GunGagdin Moan 22:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Because GSorby wanted it. You can revert it though. But I don't see the need for an early image. It doesn't pass NFCC#8. – anemone projectors – 22:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * None of our images do, according to policy lurkers on here!  GunGagdin Moan 22:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * shhh lol – anemone projectors – 23:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Edit Warring
Please stop it. I have locked the article for 24 hours. Please discuss any proposed edits here for the time being. Thank you. [If there is a further need for my attention please ping me as I am not adding this page to my already insane watch list.] -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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Seeing as the IPs cannot be arsed to come here I'll start this instead. Her full name should be in the article because "Abi" can be short for anything ..... And just to note her full name's been in the article for 7 years!. – Davey 2010 Talk 00:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There is consensus to only list the names by which a character is credited (unless there is a compelling reason to list other names, which are discussed on an individual basis). Abi cannot be short for anything, but it doesn't matter what it's short for because in the real world, the character is known as Abi Branning and nothing else. — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  12:33, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That's not correct, she was known as Abigail as well Cexycy (talk) 21:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've struck as per below, (I'd complete forgot about this rant otherwise I would've binned it hours ago!). – Davey 2010 Talk 21:51, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

When does this page get unlocked?
I know there's edit warring and this page is on high level protection, but when does it get unlocked?

Why is there like (1996-2018) in the lead? Her last appearance is noted and more to the point, Abi didn't exist in 1996 because as we say characters are not real and not born, but created and written out.

And we've now removed full names in preference of credited names, with exceptions that are truly significant like Dorothy for Dot and characters credited by full then shortened names such as Bex has been credited as Rebecca and Fi was Sophie in her childhood stint. Grangehilllover (talk) 01:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It gets unlocked at midnight,
 * No idea why "(1996 - 19 January 2018)" is in the lede and until now didn't even reliase it was,
 * The name as been restored however her name now also appears in the infobox title so that needs removing too,
 * Hopefully the warring IPs will show their faces and shed some light for us!. – Davey 2010 Talk 01:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The article has been locked until 23:54 wiki-standard time on 28 January 2018. Perhaps this would be a good time to discuss possible edits and get consensus. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:32, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Well that (1996-1998) thing from the lead really does need removing. We do not do it full stop with my point above in bold. Abi is not real, she is a character and she never existed in 1996. And I think knows about the lead names-we just do credited names I believe, with exceptions like Dorothy for Dot Branning. Grangehilllover (talk) 12:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Consensus is well-established across Wikipedia so I've removed the dates of birth and death (fictional characters are not born and do not die, they are created and written out, so we list their first and last episodes). I changed "was" back to "is" because Abi will always be a character from EastEnders. And I changed her name back to the credited name per prior consensus as well. — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  12:19, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Looking at various short-named articles other than Dot the rest don't have full names so I don't really see why her full name needs to be here either, She's never been called Abigail ever I don't think but then again I was going by consensus (or the fact it's remained for 10 years), Meh if there's a common consensus not to have full names then I guess I support its removal. – Davey 2010 Talk 15:17, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The character's full first name is Abigail. It was used a few times.  I'm sorry but that is a fact.  Maybe we can lose the dates but the full name should stand without a doubt and there was no consensus as such, just a few people reverting the edit but no proper discussion.  By the way she did not exist in 1996 or any year as she is fictional.  Cexycy (talk) 21:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * But she's never been credited as Abigail. A google search on Abigail Branning comes back as just Abi and she's never once been credited as Abigail. The removal of names the character is not credited with full forenames or middle names is practically for the same reason as we do not list surnames a character has never been credited by. Grangehilllover (talk) 21:42, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * +1 - I too did a search prior to my above reply and came to the exact same conclusions as Grange - Searching "Abigail Branning Eastenders" comes back with Abi.... She's credited as Abi so it seems kinda silly to include her full name, Because we're used to seeing it I suppose it feels weird it going but you'll get used to it. – Davey 2010 Talk 21:49, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, she has only ever been credited as Abi Branning, so in the real world she is only called Abi Branning. Abigail might be her full name in the EastEnders universe and it might have been used once or twice, but we're not concerned with that. Articles are written from a real-world perspective, so this is why we only list credited names (with a few exceptions of which this should not be one). — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  23:42, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have added a little bit which should please everyone now. Occasionally referred to as Abigail Branning as this is correct and it does not interfere with the name at the start of the paragraph.  Cexycy (talk) 14:39, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Look, she's just simply Abi. If we did that, then everyone would go OTT and some take it overboard, like put nicknames. Grangehilllover (talk) 15:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Abi Branning IS a fictional....
I know there's a thing going on with is and was, but we use "is a fictional character" across all soap pages, right, even when a character has left? Tell me if I'm wrong, but it's because Abi will always be an EE character and we can easily watch episodes from years back where she was alive and because EE is watched in other countries, where they're behind at times. But it's always is, right? Grangehilllover (talk) 19:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I see it in the sense of "She's dead and no longer with is" and so 'is' gives the impressions she's still alive if that makes sense, Whereas 'was' gives the impression she was alive and no longer is ....., Take Stephen Hawkins for a complete random example "He was an English theoretical physicist" .... It would be wrong to put "He is an English theoretical physicist" because he's no longer with us, But that's just my 2c and if consensus is to use 'is' then that's cool. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC)


 * He was a real person whilst Abi is a character played by someone who is a television show creation. She's never going to stop being a character. Take a character like Mel Owen who left 16 years ago, a character that left of her own accord, and until before we knew she was back, was Mel still a character from EE? Yes. Abi having an exit where she dies is no different to those characters hopping into a black cab, except those who do the latter can return if they can. Grangehilllover (talk) 05:52, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You're right. It should read "Abi Branning is a fictional character" etc etc. The reason being, she is always going to be a fictional character regardless of whether or not she is currently appearing. Hope that makes sense. 5 albert square (talk) 12:59, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Abi Branning is not dead because she is a fictional character - she has a death in one of the episodes but she is not dead because she lives on through the fiction. Look at old episodes on YouTube from when she arrives in the show. Does she look dead to you? She didn't cease to be a fiction character from EastEnders earlier this year because she will always be a fictional character from EastEnders. Professor Hawking cannot always be a theoretical physicist, just like I cannot always be a Wikipedia editor, because real people die and stop doing what they did when they were alive. But Abi isn't a real person, never was and never will be. Fictional characters don't die, because fiction doesn't just disappear because you finished watching it or reading it. Even in 1000 years' time, Abi Branning will be a fictional character from EastEnders. — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  17:40, 6 May 2018 (UTC)