Talk:Abinger

Is there a village?
When is a village not a village?

I see that, although this article is listed under "Villages in Surrey", the article itself is actually about the civil parish: not the same thing at all! Peter Shearan (talk) 18:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Peter I am remorseful at the policy of WP:notability (WP:N) and guidance to comply with all policies in How to write about settlements which has specialist advice for the UK, see WP:UKVILLAGES, which also applies to towns see WP:UKTOWNS, this does not really accommodate repeating all the identical historical information, education information etc etc etc. which applies to a whole civil parish - which in the grand scheme of things in the light of urban areas such as Greater London Suburbs, Crawley, Guildford etc. does not really permit calling the neighbourhoods, localities and settlements of Abinger Hammer, Abinger Common, Sutton Abinger, Abinger Common, Forest Green, Walliswood, Oakwood Hill villages - really each to have duplication of much of this information? Definitely a waste of bytes and causing inconsistency when some new fact comes to light  Inevitably it helps all round if people associate the place they live with the historic entity in which by civil parish they live: ABINGER and current civil parish which is also called named Abinger and historic ecclesiastical parish which was Abinger and I see Abinger is the current village but only arguably in popular parlance it is the locality they like to call their village though all it is is what was one or two farms of old and, a small prettily and traditionally defined neighbourhood e.g. Abinger Hammer.  See Church of England - Abinger St James.


 * The correct practice is to avoid dispute therefore I (and previous editors, I think) have omitted the word village from Abinger and tried to combine it all in one per policy. Note to its residents in global encyclopedia terms 'we live in (distinct) and (distinctive) localities whereas in popular colloquial English parlance less so among the ill-informed who say we all live in villages.  Historically it's a village rooted in its church.  It's not one village in popular usage of estate agents and English today but it is so in some communal facilities, so it is a CP that can still be classed as a village.Adam37 (talk) 22:01, 5 November 2012‎  (UTC)

Do readers agree it is usually a nasal, standard ing sound?
I have heard both versions across the county. So I am not sure whether we should put both versions (even if one is considered locally unorthodox) next to the name with the primary stress: i.e. or - (with a note for the notes section explaining both versions are heard today). Without lecturing the style is directly the same as Abingdon, not one of the word harbinger which in my view has seeped into some people's minds. This is one where slightly more input is required than just one editor, particularly from those who are younger but still know the area. - Adam37   Talk  09:36, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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