Talk:Abiy Ahmed/Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2018
Please correct the statement where it says, MBA from Ashland University to MBA from Leadstar College of Management and Leadership in partnership with Ashland. Desta Gemechu (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
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Various vandalism and false information
The article need otherwise to permanently protected because the date of birth still changes. For some readers, it is not deemed as a good article. It needs a permanent protection in order to avoid further disruption. The Supermind (talk) 08:59, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

There is too many vandalism in the article. It must bemonitored by any uninvolved administrator. The Supermind (talk) 20:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2019
Change "Allahu Akbar" back to the original headlines. Someone wrote "Allahu Akbar" in most of the headlines in the article, probably in mocking of Abiy Ahmed's last name and Muslim father. 128.0.73.12 (talk) 10:38, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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The prime minister position place
In the article "List of heads of government of Ethiopia", the Prime Minister rulership started in 1942, with position of Makonnen Endelkachew. He is the first Prime Minister of Ethiopia. By count (excluding acting Prime Minister) the position reached up to 10th. I also believe that he is the fourth prime minister of Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia that is formed in 1995. The Supermind (talk) 09:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2020
Abiy Ahmed was elicited in 2018 he has killed many Oromos in the past 2 years. Oromos is the biggest ethnic group in Ethiopia. There was one story one of Abiy Ahmed soldiers shot and killed a Oromo citizen and left the body the for the nearby animals to eat,just cause was Oromo. And the worst thing Abiy Ahmed did was kill the best musician,the one person who is brave enough to speak out about what Abiy Ahmed is doing. Huchalu Hundessa.It was the middle of the night and he dropped of his sister in law at her home and came back and was shot outside his own home. The woman who planned the assassination with a few other people. A few minutes later the woman who planned the assassination called the ambulance and said "someone" shot him. Later pronounced dead at the hospital. Those two people who i wrote about are just two out of 200. This is what Abiy Ahmed has been doing so far the past 2 years. 2600:6C44:E80:6F:684D:1B24:961:B10A (talk) 03:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2020
Abiy Ahmed was born in the town of Beshasha, located near Agaro, Oromia.[7][8][9][10] His deceased father, Ahmed Ali, was a Muslim Oromo[11] (and had four wives[12]), while his deceased mother, Tezeta Wolde,[13] was an Orthodox[14] Christian Oromo.[15][16] Bdesdes (talk) 16:31, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Not what the sources say. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2021
96.250.2.226 (talk) 01:40, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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Date of Birth

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There seems to be an endless series of edits to his date of birth. The, admittedly limited sources I can find all appear to agree on 1976 however


 * https://www.journalducameroun.com/en/ethiopia-dr-abiy-ahmed-tipped-to-become-next-pm/


 * https://www.abyssiniadaily.net/ethiopia-documentary-on-dr-abiy-ahmed_548e04bd4.html

Heliotom (talk) 13:36, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

More sources for 1976, including one from Zena365, contradicting 1975 DoB


 * http://www.hahudaily.com/hahuvids/watch.php?vid=502941650


 * http://www.zena365.com/watch.php?vid=cc2705098


 * http://amharic.sodere.com/2018/02/19/dr-abiy-ahmed-more-likely-to-become-the-next-ethiopian-prime-minister/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heliotom (talk • contribs) 07:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes. There are lots of links pointing to 1976, but most of them were written based on the Wiki article. I have credible (yet unpublished) documents citing 1975 as the correct DoB and that he is 42 years old, not 41. Allow me to make the change. Odaw (talk) 09:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

unpublished documents won't fly. See WP:NOR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heliotom (talk • contribs) 10:14, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

There is disagreement over the DoB of the subject. The majority of sources seem to point to 1976, but may themselves be based on the wikipedia article, so there's potentially a feedback loop here. The article's original creator proposes a 1975 date but without reliable source. There was significant edit warring and disruptive editing/vandalism early in this article's history that is potentially the source of the confusion.Heliotom (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * 1976 unsure is unpublished docs are OR as we don't know what they are. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊  15:11, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Probably 1976, but definitely not 1975 based on current sourcing. It's not clear to me, based on what I see in the sources, why Odaw is asserting that they are all themselves based on the Wikipedia article--other than some similarities in content for some.  And unless I'm missing something, I don't see enough similarity across those articles (and our own) to establish a presumption that we are the source-point for all of their facts.  If Odaw can assert certitude only because they say they have their own primary sources in hand is, that is of course textbook WP:Original research.  So even if we were to be convinced that we had a WP:CIRCULAR situation here, we would not use 1975 based on claims about documents alleged to have been procured by one of our editors and we would have to default to providing no exact age or date of birth. Less than ideal for an article on a soon-to-be head of state, of course, but there would be no other solution remaining to us under policy, in those circumstances. Snow let's rap</b> 05:05, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * 1976 (summoned) based on published source. If it isn't right, some sources will pop eventually and we can change it then. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:54, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1976. Some sources say, that he is 42 years old (maybe a birth date in January 1976?) but nobody questions 1976. I also found an old and independent biography from the time before his rise to power (WP:CIRCULAR not possible in that case) and that source also says 1976. The exact birthday in this old source, however, is not the 15 August but 23 May. So, 1976 seems to be set but the exact date is not. --Metrancya (talk) 08:34, 4 April 2018 (UTC)


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More birth date sources
These three sources:, , , state that he was born on august 15, 1976. M.Bitton (talk) 23:43, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Title change
I am being bold and moving the article to Abiy Ahmed, as this appears to be the WP:COMMONNAME, as can be evidenced by a broad array of international and Ethiopian sources:
 * BBC News
 * Reuters
 * AP
 * Deutsche Welle
 * Al Jazeera
 * Foreign Policy
 * Borkena.com
 * OPride.com

Being bold is necessary as Wikipedia's choice of language can influence discussion elsewhere and we should be proactive in avoiding distortions in our age of misinformation and fake news. --Varavour (talk) 16:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed Grammatical Edit
The middle paragraph of the Political Career section says he mediated "a new alliance between Oromo and the Amhara groups, both making up two-thirds of the 100 million Ethiopian population." Am I reading this wrong or does the current grammar read as if both ethnic groups make up 2/3rds of the Ethiopian population? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.246.255.164 (talk) 01:41, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I've changed that part now. BushelCandle (talk) 09:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Suggested NEW section addition "Postponement of the May 2020 general election"
I suggest the addition of a news section called about the "Postponement of the May 2020 general election". The regular May 2020 election was postponed several times, where the first was to August 2020. This was before COVID-19, then at last it was postponed due to COVID-19. Some references for this:-
 * https://www.france24.com/en/20200115-abiy-ahmed-ethiopia-elections

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Loves Woolf1882 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Suggested NEW section addition "Political prisoners"
I suggest the addition of a news section called "Political prisoners", based on the following references and more:-
 * https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/01/ethiopia-authorities-crack-down-on-opposition-supporters-with-mass-arrests/
 * https://allafrica.com/stories/202007310160.html
 * https://www.thereporterethiopia.com/article/oromia-police-arrest-lidetu-ayalew
 * https://unpo.org/article/22009
 * https://addisstandard.com/confirmed-defense-minister-lemma-megerssa-under-house-arrest/
 * https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/04/ethiopia-release-detained-journalists-and-opposition-politicians-immediately/
 * https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/03/ethiopia-police-must-account-for-missing-oromo-opposition-leader/
 * https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/02/ethiopia-vendor-killed-musician-injured-after-police-attack-opposition-supporters-in-oromia/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Loves Woolf1882 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Section rename
regarding this edit, would it better for the section to be renamed "Criticism"?VR talk  14:53, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I generally don't prefer to have a criticism or controversy section per wp:CRITS, but I agree that the section -although it's mainly about his political categorization and positions- has a negative tone and could be considered criticism, so maybe we could expand the section to make it more comprehensive? or merge it with another section?  Mohamed  Talk 19:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ,, you're right. Sorry I didn't consider that.VR talk  14:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Abiy Ahmed
For your information at this time from November 2020 Abiy Ahmed has made Tigray people suffer. Thousands of children and Adults dying of diarrhea. There is plenty more to say that cannot speak of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.223.119 (talk) 15:04, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2021
I would like to edit this and add information on it thanks. Kidusone (talk) 18:54, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2021
Change "Howeverver, significant part of the international community considered it undeserved and raised a quesion of his Nobel Peace Prize ought to be revoked" to "However, a significant part of the international community considered it undeserved and questioned whether his Nobel Peace Prize ought to be revoked" Alm0229 (talk) 10:16, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ melecie   t  10:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2021
Request to edit his page because of more information coming in. TRUTHINCommons (talk) 01:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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