Talk:Abraham Quintanilla

Improvement
I have re-did the entire article by expanding and adding sections with sources from two books. I will continue to expand and add more information throughout the month; however, this is what I have come up with in the past two weeks or so. If anyone here can contribute positivity then please do so, I am striving for this article to be a good article. Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 21:09, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Abraham's mother
"Abraham's mother, Mary was a mormon pioneers, who tried aggressively to convey Hispanic and Latino Americans from Catholicism to Jehovah's Witnesses, by door-to-door missionary work."

I have tried twice to remove the above conflicting/erroneous sentence regarding Mary Quintanilla. I do not know why my last effort was labeled vandalism. To call her a "mormon pioneer" who tried to convert Hispanic/Latino Catholics to Jehovah's Witnesses makes no sense whatsoever. Being a Mormon is different and unrelated to being a Jehovah's Witness. The sentence needs to be removed or rewritten with correct information. FauxFauxMartha (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Tell me how else you would re-write this? However, its written in the book "Como La Flor" that Mary Quintanilla was a mormon pioneers who did door-to-door missionary work in efforts to convert Latino Americans to JW. AJona1992 (talk) 22:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Either the book says something else, or the book is wrong. Can you supply an exact quotation?-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 23:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure: When Abe Quintanilla was fourteen, his parents left the Catholic Church to become Jehovah's Witnesses. It was a decision that changed his family forever. Abraham Sr., and Mary were among the early pioneers in the exodus of Latin-Americans from the Catholic Church to Protestant religions that was led by the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, who were among the more aggressive groups seeking to convert the Spanish-speaking population through door-to-door missionary work. That's whats written in the book. AJona1992 (talk) 00:04, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. So it says the exodus of Latin-Americans from the Catholic Church was led by the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. It doesn't say Mary was a member of both groups.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 00:12, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't say she was a member however it does say she was "among" them. AJona1992 (talk) 00:15, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, she was among a broader group of Latin-Americans who'd converted away from the Catholic Church. I have fixed the paragraph in question.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright since I have little knowledge about JW studies the edit looks better. Thanks for helping out this issue, AJona1992 (talk) 00:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Making sense of a note
"in the book Como La Flor written by Joe Nick Patoski, "Los Dinos" sold 150,000 copies which the book states Manny Guerra may over exaggerated on the record sales of the single"

I have changed this to

"in Selena Como La Flor, Joe Nick Patoski, Patoski says Give Me One Chance's sales of 150,000 copies may have been exaggerated by Manny Guerra."

It really needs someone to look at the book to see that it does say that, certainly the existing note makes little or no sense.

A Merry Christmas! Rich Farmbrough, 02:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC).


 * I'm the one who originally added that line. Patoski was given the sales estimates from Guerra, I'm guessing while writing the book, and Patoski believes this was an exaggerated figure and he pointed that out in the book. Best, .jona  talk  20:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This article should not be deleted as the subject satisfies WP:Notability (musicians). The random IP, whose only purpose seems to be directed towards deleting articles, believes the subject is only notable for being the father of Selena and had the IP actually read the article s/he would know that the subject had a life and a career playing with Los Dinos in the two decades that preceded the birth of Selena. Furthermore, he is the owner of Q-Productions which handles other musicians in the Tejano music market who went on winning awards at the TMAs. – jona  ✉ 21:35, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * okay you can stop attacking me now. The only reason Los Dinos are famous is because of Selena. The band Los Dinos that was created before Selena was born is not notable, their music didn't chart anywhere, they didn't win any major awards etc. Also I propose a merge with this article and Q Productions since he is the owner.

Requested move 21 February 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested. Dekimasu よ! 07:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Abraham Quintanilla Jr. → Abraham Quintanilla – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:COMMONNAME. In the Quintanilla musical family, Selena's father is more commonly known as "Abraham", and his son (creator of Kumbia Kings) is best known as "A.B." likely to distinguish himself from the elder Abraham.

News coverage at the time of Selena's passing did not use "Jr.", such as this May 21, 1995 article in the Houston Chronicle in addition to other articles like this article from October 1995 and this Texas Monthly article from May 1995.

However, even back then some stories included "Jr.", like this December 1995 article by Texas Monthly, as well as this Houston Chronicle article during the murder trial of Selena's killer.

So it appears that this Abraham Quintanilla is the only person commonly known by that name and is generally known without the "Jr.", because his son (Abraham III) goes by a nickname. Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:40, 21 February 2019 (UTC)


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