Talk:Abraham Vereide

Abraham Vereide's anti-union views
Reference Jeff Sharlet's book "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.93.212 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 18 December 2009


 * Which pages? --Kevinkor2 (talk) 15:09, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Honorary LLD
I'm re-inserting "honorary" before the LLD degree. See Legum Doctor. While it's true that LLD is always honorary in the U.S., that's not true in the rest of the world. Many outside the U.S. (in fact, many in the U.S.) may not be aware of that (I wasn't). Davemck (talk) 15:19, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Removed apparent copyvio material
In this edit introduces text which clearly has the imprint of having been lifted wholesale off some other work, i.e. the footnote digits remain ([14]). I have also realized that the same editor has made a number of previous edits bearing the same hallmark, and I am inclined now to remove all additions to the article made by this editor. I have made a Google search for one phrase within the most recently added text without anything turning up, however, unless some other explanation is given for these interspersed numbers in brackets, I move that we have to assume they indicate copyright violations. __meco (talk) 08:06, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest that Ivananderson may be copying and pasting text from a previous version of a Wikipedia article.--Kevinkor2 (talk) 13:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * In any case, I have questioned him about this directly on his user talk page, so we'll probably have a clear picture of this in a short while. __meco (talk) 13:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The more fundamental concern is that this article has stopped looking like an encyclopedic article. Excerpts:


 * It was on the mountainsides standing in the midst of his flocks of sheep that he practiced his first homilies.
 * [he went to] to research the Spiritual moorings of America's heritage.
 * This phrase poignantly expressed a vision for the global endeavor of these two Norwegian Methodist pioneers
 * and so on... Even if there's no copyright issue, this article needs to be reverted to the last version not edited by a poetic apologist. Pichpich (talk) 03:39, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Poorly written
Reads like a high school essay. Somebody fix it, please.50.0.36.98 (talk) 06:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

An earnest editor needs help fitting his content into the Wikipedia format
. You seem to be new, since you have only two edits under this user name & they are both on this page. I used the View history link at the top of the main article page (looking at it here would only get you the history of this talk page, BTW) to compare your two versions side-by-side, and I saw how much earnest effort you put into rewording it.

However, when revising content of any kind, anywhere, it saves time and effort to consider how your content fits into the overall guidelines (here, the Wikipedia:Five pillars) before you start. By discounting some of the guidelines that try to steer WP articles towards neutrality and an overall balance of notability, you fell back into the same problems as your first draft.

Your point of view, like mine, drives what topics you volunteer to work on in here, and we need editors from all points of view contributing where they feel driven to contribute. We need you. But to be fair to every editor, every reader and, oh! let me be dramatic, To Knowledge Itself, we have to work towards building neutrality and accuracy in Wikipedia.

I wish I could help you on an individual level more than this, but even typing this off the top of my head was pushing it because my chronic illness is really acting up lately, and it always keeps me from being reliable. I only mention this to show you how heartfelt I'm being in response to your good effort.

Why not bring in another point of view from another source such as http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opinion/sunday/a-christian-nation-since-when.html and then compare and contrast it with quotes and neutral summaries from the more sympathetic source you've already found? But before you make any changes at this point, please discuss them on this page first, either below my text or by clicking the New section link at the top of the page.

Also, and other experienced editors, if I pointed any wikilink to the wrong article, please feel free to fix it for me. Thanks in advance! --Geekdiva (talk) 11:49, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

More to come on Prayer Breakfasts and Himmler
Including photographic evidence, eyewitness accounts, his FBI file (On or after December 8, 2016, FOIA requests currently being drafted), and German documents. 75 years is MANDATORY declassification. All the right wingers in the world will not be able to censor the additions and corrections being made to so many of Hitler's workers and churches in the USA as of the date December 8, 1941. 74.120.133.105 (talk) 19:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)