Talk:Abrigo do Lagar Velho

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The text of this article is identical to the one found at. Catuireal (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I realised nationmaster.com is a Wikipedia mirror, see Mirrors and forks/MnoCatuireal (talk) 19:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

this page needs
Less about Lapedo Child (what's here duplicates the Lapedo Child page) and more about any other finds - petroglyphs, tools, middens and so forth. Nitpyck (talk) 20:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * To be painfully blatant:


 * At the moment, the Lapedo Child section seems extremely dubious regarding neutrality; in some areas, prior statements are simply reiterated as if to reinforce the author's conclusion. Additionally, the total content exceeds the main article's actual length (being loaded with technical measurements of the skeleton's proportions which do not appear relevant to an article about a place, only seeming to obfuscate any meaningful information conveyed) and there are no citations supporting the biased statements. For these reasons, I've designated the questionable material as a hidden comment until it can be cleaned up a bit for exportation to the source page. I don't really know what else to do with it and didn't want to leave it just sitting there.—Aaagmnr (talk) 02:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

new discovered cave
Holliday et al., ʺAbrigo do Alecrim, A New Upper Paleolithic Site in the Lapedo Valley (Portugal)ʺ The Lapedo Valley, in central Portugal, is best known for the Lagar Velho site which has yielded evidence of multiple Upper Paleolithic occupations, as well as a Gravettian‐age (ca. 24,500 BP) burial of a child said to exhibit characters indicative of mixed Neandertal‐modern human ancestry. Here we report on another rock shelter site at Lapedo, the Abrigo do Alecrim, located 300 m NNE of the Lagar Velho, is on the talus at the base of the limestone cliff delimiting the northern side of the Lapedo gorge. Excavations in the vicinity of Alecrim were undertaken in 2002; excavation of the rock shelter itself began in 2003, and continued in 2004 and 2005. Preliminary test pits showed the presence of a thick slope‐ waste succession containing archaeological layers and features. To date, while excavating within only four square meters, we have catalogued 411 lithic artifacts, hundreds of pieces of faunal bone, and significant debitage associated with at least one Paleolithic hearth. A bone fragment associated with this feature was AMS radiocarbon dated to 20,510 + 150 BP (uncalibrated Beta 203513), suggesting a Solutrean age. As was the case for the Lagar Velho, however, the lithic artifacts recovered from Alecrim are not particularly Upper Paleolithic in character‐the majority (343, or 83%) of the lithic artifacts are made on flakes; only 11 artifacts, or 3%, of the lithic artifacts can be classified as blades or bladelets. This may be due in part to the raw material used; curiously, the majority (245, or 60%) of the recovered lithic artifacts are made on quartz. Quartzite and flint artifacts make up just 28% and 12% of the lithic assemblage, respectively. Multiple refittings of some of these artifacts, as well as of fire‐cracked cobbles associated with the hearth, suggest that the integrity of the cultural layers at Alecrim is intact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.183.158 (talk) 20:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

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