Talk:Abu Obaida (Hamas)

Hamas defended Palestinians and protect all children and not harm people of Israelis. Hamas only wants the basic rights of the Palestinian people back and distance the people from the tyranny of the illegal Israeli army.The settlers of Israel harming Palestinians brutally since 1948 ago.Hamas never attack settlers or any children and protect their land of Palestinians. The illegal Israelis army shoot out people brutally, where there is no humanity.Find out more, go to Gaza to watch the truth.

Error
It is called resistance and not terrorist organization. Colonizers are the terrorists, and by colonizer I mean the US, Europe and all their allies. 102.159.52.19 (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Well then, in line with the Hamas Charter, you don't want any of the above pushing for a peace deal, regardless of what your cunt friends now make a stink over 84.58.209.180 (talk) 19:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 October 2023
Hamas is a political party not a terrorist organisation 102.47.69.204 (talk) 15:41, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ to "political and military" (the wording used at Hamas) from "terrorist" per MOS:TERRORIST. Tollens (talk) 11:26, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

SIGCOV
Are there any sources that give significant coverage to this individual? All the sources seem to only quote his statements, but there's nothing confirmed about him.VR talk 01:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Vice regent: There are several in Arabic: This This and This for example. I think GNG doesn't require SIGCOV in English, but I'm not sure. Moazfargal (talk) 22:10, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Arabic sources are acceptable. Are those sources reliable? VR talk 01:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


 * More than a month has passed by. Looking at references it seems the references are not about Abu Obaida, they are simply about the statements uttered by him that are really the statements of the organization Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. The WP:SIGCOV still fails, and it might be best to redirect this page to the organization.VR talk 01:57, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 November 2023
Requested on further elaboration and video information on point 11. Stating without proof of someone is wrong even in court. We need proof before believing. 2001:E68:5FA1:A500:D049:FF2B:EAD6:547F (talk) 13:04, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 14:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 November 2023
Change Militants to Terrorists Change Militant to Terrorist 2607:FEA8:E280:31A0:7039:AEF8:A8EB:2B4 (talk) 03:57, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!  16:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 November 2023 (2)
Change “militant” to “terrorist”

Kidnapping, Raping, and Murdering Israeli Women and children doesn’t make him a militant. It makes him a terrorist. If you actually look at the definition of terrorism on your own website, this guy is the epitome of that definition. So fix it, and stop promoting the rape and murder of Jewish women and children. It’s pathetic. 2607:FEA8:E280:31A0:7039:AEF8:A8EB:2B4 (talk) 04:01, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!  16:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Error
Hamas is not a militant organisation. Get your facts right 2001:16A2:3FDC:B00:21B2:D761:C157:A57A (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)


 * “Militant” is a more neutral form of language. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 21:26, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

NBC-NEWS-report
At the end of the page, the following is claimed:

Searching for this wording, the only source I can find for this seems to be the NBC News article, DW has a report that claims something similar, but the source of the claims does not appear to be Abu Obaida but rather Israeli officials themselves see this. (ie Israeli officials claimed that this is what Hamas wants to do).

Knowing that all the talks of Abu Obaida are recorded and posted to the internet, so I also attempted finding the original recording of him saying this but couldn't find anything by Abu Obaida claiming said executions.

Is this source really reliable? Can more global sources be provided for this? Can the original video of him saying this be provided as the main source instead? In my opinion, the public video recordings should actually be the source of everything claimed to be said by him, or at least a report/article that does include the video (like many BBC articles do), no?

It may also be worth mentioning the context in which this was said if there was any.

Knowing that from the video recordings I reviewed Abu Obaida never seemed to claim or imply they would do any harm to the captives nor using any similar tune, which makes a lot of sense for a group like Hamas, where they don't want to be characterized as a terrorist group in the eyes of public, so it makes no sense for them to say such thing nor does it align up with previous quotes by him. Bilal2453 (talk) 19:49, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

The problem of using "the poster hanging in Istanbul" for the image
Turkish people reacted greatly to the hanging of this terrorist's poster and the poster was removed. Isn't it ridiculous that instead of his own photo, there is a photo of his poster hanging in Istanbul? 176.227.1.41 (talk) 19:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Standardise "Gaza-Israel" or "Israel-Hamas"
The ongoing conflict is referred to twice as the "Israel-Hamas war" and once as the "Gaza-Israel war;" this should be standardised throughout the article. 2604:3D08:5882:7200:8499:CCA9:3864:CC6F (talk) 01:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Please correct the words militant because he is not ..he is the one defending his freedom, his motherland
It's not Hamas war it's the isreal genocide on Phalastine 2409:4073:48B:1CBA:0:0:25A1:58A5 (talk) 12:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 July 2024
Removing contradictory information and updating the article to clarify that his name was released in April 2024. Blepii (talk) 04:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 06:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)