Talk:Academic scarf/Archive 1

University of London
If the Constituent Colleges of the University of London started the trend, what are their scarfs colours? I've put an initial table together in my sandbox from what I've found on the web, but I've never been to any of the colleges, so I don't really know what I'm doing. Does anyone want to do this? --ThirdEdition 03:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Image colours
I may be mislead by my own computer screen, but it seems to me that the jpgs displaying the scarf colours are slightly too dark. At least it is very difficult to see a difference between dark blue, black, and other dark shades, including green. Even more difficult than in reality...

Have the colours been played around with already? What could be done? (Apart from adjusting otherwise apparently well-functioning screen colours, that is :) Mendicant 07:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Usability
Do other readers of this page think the current method of displaying the scarves is nice on the eye, or would the method at the Queens' College website or Dublin University website (see links on main page) be superior?

Something which would encourage users to add scarves they know the designs over would be desirable. If you do know a scarf design, but don't want to bother taking the time to add it to the mainpage by editing colour codes, please describe and name it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.1.136 (talk • contribs) 13:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I assume you mean this Queens' College link https://web.archive.org/web/20080315093824/http://www.queens.cam.ac.uk/Queens/Misc/Colou. I think the method on the Queens' College site illustrates the scarves slightly better.  However, I prefer the use of tables to gif files because it means the scarves can be tweaked more easily. I've come to like the cross-sectional display of the scarves. --ThirdEdition 23:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I really think the current method is bad. At first it looks like each graphic is a full scarf with long sections of different colours. The Queens' method is much easier to comprehend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.1.136 (talk • contribs) 09:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * What about something like this:


 * --ThirdEdition 02:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I think the college logos make it look a bit cluttered, and the length of the scarf would restricted the amount fitting on a page. Don't want the page to be too long! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.43.12 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It could be done like this (just changing the orientation of the scarves):

{| class="toccolours" style="margin: 0 auto; text-align:center;" width=90%
 * width=33% |
 * width=33% | University of London
 * width=33% |
 * width=33% |


 * King's College London
 * Guy's Hospital
 * St Thomas' Hospital
 * Guy's Hospital
 * St Thomas' Hospital


 * }
 * }
 * }


 * I think what we've got already is better, though. --ThirdEdition 00:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I disagree - the alternative design seems much more faithful to genuine scarf designs. This is of course up for debate, the only drawback I see is the time taken to alter all the scarves, but I'd be happy to put in my share of the work. --Bretj89 03:37, 19 November 2009
 * Definitely think the suggested change to rotate them is betterGeorgeryall (talk) 13:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

St. Hilda's?
On my monitor the background of the St. Hilda's College (Oxford) scarf looks black, when in fact it's dark blue. Is this a mistake, or just a problem with the display of the colours? MLilburne 12:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

St. Edmund Hall
Yet again I have had to revert an incorrect change to the scarf colours. The college's colours are "Claret and Cream", look at your scarf it is not red and yellow. I suggest you look at site if you require confirmation. Granted a lot of the Hall's sporting gear is red and yellow but that's largely because it's much easier/cheaper to produce. Never the less it is still incorrect. I don't know why some people are so keen on continually changing it. AulaTPN 22:57, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

University College London
Have found some mentioning of the College Colours of UCL but am not sure which one is the 'correct' one.

Have also seen some students wearing scarfs and outfits look like those depicted in the above websites in the college(most alike the one ont smartturnout's site), but it seems the college shop now only selling the products with the new 'brand' of the college. Do someone know more about this issue? (like has the college abandoned the whole college colour scheme?) Jsernest 14:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Regent's Park Colours
The scarf of Regent's Park College is actually claret and champagne. The college's own page on Wikipedia displays the correct colours, so could someone with the "know-how" please update this page? Thanks. --Mecooper 14:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Done! --Casper Gutman 01:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. --Mecooper 18:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

London School of Economics' Scarf is slightly off
This site here: shows that the outside is actually purple instead of the blue shown. I'm awful with graphic design, otherwise I'd change it myself. Could someone with the proper skills modify it? Thanks! MarcelLionheart 19:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hopefully that's better. 90.240.47.120 23:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Much, thanks! MarcelLionheart 21:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Updated: --evrik (talk) 17:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

University of Wales
The colours shown here are the other way round and in different proportions from the University of Wales article. Also five of the constituent bits (I forget the correct term but I'm told "college" now means something else) have scarves on their pages but badly coded:


 * University of Wales, Aberystwyth
 * University of Wales, Bangor
 * University of Wales, Lampeter
 * University of Wales, Newport
 * University of Wales Institute, Cardiff

Is anyone able to a) code this better and b) create a section for Wales and its colleges here? Timrollpickering 11:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The scarf here is the right way round, and the right proportions - I should know, I've got one right in front of me :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.161.3.171 (talk • contribs) 11:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Where are scarves sold? Material used to make scarves
Where can one buy a London college scarf? Where can one buy an Oxford, Cambridge, or Durham college scarf outside of those cities? Also, are scarves always made from that horrible itchy wool? I have never been able to wear my college scarf because it's too uncomfortable.--Oxonian2006 22:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Usually you can get them at the college store; Cambridge's main store sells their ties and scarves and such. Each London university has its own shop within its 'campus' somewhere.  You'll just have to find them.  The itchy wool gets less itchy the more you wear it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by  MarcelLionheart  (talk • contribs) 18:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * University of London scarves are sold from the University of London Union shop. For general college scarf purchases (and at the risk of indulging in advertising) I suggest you google 'Luke Eyres' - they're the country's oldest academic scarf specialist, and have a record of most patterns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.150.112.45   (talk • contribs) 09:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

London Colleges
Are there scarves for:


 * Central School of Speech and Drama
 * Courtauld Institute of Art
 * Goldsmiths College
 * Heythrop College
 * Institute of Cancer Research
 * Institute of Education
 * London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
 * Royal Academy of Music
 * School of Oriental and African Studies
 * St George's, University of London
 * University of London Institute in Paris
 * School of Advanced Study and its institutes
 * University Marine Biological Station, Millport

? --Oxonian2006 22:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Aberystwyth University
At some point, I'm going to put the Aber scarf online; as per: The reversible UW and AU scarf has been replaced with an AU only scarf, as the university has separated from the University of Wales, though it intends to keep close links. ~Cortal UX Talk? 14:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * and

University of East Anglia
The scarf proportions are incorrect - they are two-thirds black and one third blue. Can this be corrected? I also have specs for the now-obsolete scarves for the various Schools of Study at UEA, if they are of interest. Nicllwyn (talk) 10:16, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's really a matter of trial and error in getting the proportions right - you should have seen the trouble I had with the Newcastle scarf! Rob (talk) 20:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Hertfordshire
FWIW, the University of Hertfordshire has:

I still have one of these around the place somewhere from my time at Hatfield. Marnanel (talk) 22:48, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Symmetry
I note that nearly all scraves are symmetrical in their colour arrangements, regardless of university. However, a bare handful are not. Is there any reason for this? I can't see any mention of these atypical arrangements in the individual college articles. --Mat Hardy (talk) 10:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know, really - both of the places I've been to have asymmetrical scarves - I suspect it's just to be different. Rob (talk) 17:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

University of Durham
The scarf colours of John Snow College are shown on Colleges of the University of Durham page in Wikipedia. Could someone possibly add them to this page? I tried and made a muck of it. There doesn't seem to be any record of the colours for Stephenson College (but I bet the College has a scarf). Kranf (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mmm, I didn't know they had one, actually. I'll perhaps have a go another night if you like, but if you fancy a go first, I would suggest using the code for St Chad's College as a template,  as that's the closest to the pattern on the college page, although it would be nice to see a proper photo of one. However, I can't find any mention of their scarf on the internet - I know that's not always a good indicator of these things, though. Have Ustinov and Josephine Butler had scarves made as well now? Rob (talk) 00:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Trinity College Dublin
The scarves for Trinity College Dublin are here:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.18.217 (talk) 23:59, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

University of Glasgow
Guys, this new entry needs a lot of formatting help. but as i'm new here, it's a bit beyond me. thanks, Heatherica 03:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatherica (talk • contribs)
 * Done Georgeryall (talk) 13:22, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

University of Reading
The Reading scarf is something like this:

Can this be added please? I tried, but the way this article is coded baffled me and when I did get the colours up, they looked out of proportion and it also buggered up the formatting of the rest of the page. Thanks so much. Mabalu (talk) 14:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the purple stripes should be a bit wider and a shade darker. Not sure how to adjust, though. Here's a link to the actual scarf, sorry it's a retail page... Mabalu (talk) 14:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

University of Hull
I have one of these scarves, and it's different to the pattern shown here. There is only one tone of blue: the darker one, and where this shows single yellow stripes on each side, there are actually double stripes. If you were to take the University of Bristol Engineering scarf and change the black (white) to navy blue (yellow), that would do it. The scarf shown here is either wrong or obsolete; I suspect the former, since in an old photo from the 1960/70s, a group of students are shown wearing scarves identical to mine. Perhaps the one shown here dates back to University College Hull? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.29.202 (talk) 17:14, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

University of Pennsylvania
Since there are no standardized academic scarf patterns for the Ivy League universities I have added an alternate scarf pattern for Pennsylvania in addition to the one made by O'Connell's (red-blue-red-blue). This alternate scarf is currently made by Smart Turnout of London and is the same pattern as that of Corpus Christi College, Oxford (blue-red-blue-red-blue). The scarf may be viewed here:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.247.70 (talk) 18:02, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

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US university scarves off?
I think something is off about the US academic scarves. Yale is most certainly white and blue and MIT is grey and burgundy. Can someone take a peek? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.210.175  (talk • contribs) 21:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * How? --evrik (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

University of Manchester
The present University of Manchester scarf looks like this:

Unlike either of the patterns presented here. As the largest single-site university in the UK it deserves to have its scarf represented correctly. Urselius (talk) 19:22, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * go ahead and change it. --evrik (talk) 13:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Have done so, thanks. Urselius (talk) 15:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)