Talk:Ace (baseball)

Barry Zito
Lol at Barry Zito being an ace. I'm removing that. He's clearly in the midst of decline into mediocrity. Even before the 2007 season, he was definitely not an "Ace," merely a dependable front of the rotation lefty without dominating stuff. --Redwolf75 06:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * All I was looking for is an unbiased source that easily lists each team's ace. The two choices were baseball-reference (who picks based solely on stats - either "lowest ERA" or "inning pitched"), or MLB.com (which lists an actual depth chart based on the past season. Zito is listed 1st on MLB.com's depth chart, so that's why he's listed as an ace. Incidentally looking at stats alone, his adjusted ERA is 0.01 points lower than it was last year (when he was picked on the All-Star team), respectable when you consider it was his first season at a new club. ugen64 20:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Every team does not have an "ace." I think it's a mistake to format it in this fashion. --Redwolf75 (talk) 07:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this is just someone's opinion of who's the best pitcher in every team, you should have at least backed it up with references. 71.185.118.174 (talk) 01:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

edit war
Why cant Dsch-whatever-his-name-is be at least temporarily blocked from editing? He's started so many edit wars, and added so much incorrect information, it's not even funny. --Redwolf75 (talk) 23:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

2009
Why is the closers template current and updated, but no one wants the aces updated?-DANO- (talk) 02:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Origin of term
Are we sure about the Asa Brainard derivation? "Ace" is a term that's long been used for "the best" in any number of circumstances - it's the highest value in card-games, it's the best grade you can get on an exam (probably a derivation of the letter 'A', being the first letter in the alphabet, and the highest grade in most systems), it's used for a perfect serve in tennis, it can be used to describe a top-notch fighter pilot, etc. Just because one pitcher used it as a nickname doesn't mean that's the original derivation for the term in general. Lurlock (talk) 19:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

New definition
It should be noted that calling any elite pithcer is an "Ace" is the new definition. MLB is very traditional, and traditionally speaking, the Ace is the best pitcher of a staff. Each team has one Ace, and no team can have more than one Ace. (It just sounds silly to even say that).... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.198 (talk) 14:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The ace is preferred to start 1st game of World Series?
Is that noted anywhere on Wikipedia? Doing so would allow that pitcher THREE starts in a 7-game series. A notable exception to this was Robin Roberts of the Phillies in 1950, because he had pitched so much in the last week of the regular season. (The Phillies, having trouble with their starting pitching at the time, started Jim Konstanty, who had 74 relief appearances and no starts in 1950 regular season, in game 1, and he did well but was on short end of 1-0 duel with the Yankees' Vic Raschi. The Yankees won that WS in 4-game sweep.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.47 (talk) 17:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)