Talk:Acey-deucey

Rules
The way we always played Acey-Deucey, is that the opponent gets to use any number that you can't use.

Thus, if you are on the bar, you definitely need to get off the bar and come in; suppose you roll double fives, and the opponent has covered the 5-spot, what do you do? Nothing, because you are out of luck. Worse, the opponent gets to use the double fives, because everything rolled has to be used if it is at all possible, and he uses your double fives before he gets his turn.

Similarly if you have two men on the bar, and you roll something like a two and a three, and one of those points is already covered by your opponent, you can bring in only one of your men, but the other man remains on the bar. The way we play it, any number you can't use, ought to be used by your opponent. Hence, in the above example, you bring in one man but the opponent gets to use the other number.

When all of your men are in the home court, the numbers you throw relate to bearing men off, as moving the men from point to point is forbidden. This makes placement of the men an important matter before you bring that very last man home to your home court.

Finally, another house rule is something a little bit more serious: it makes the rule mandatory instead of optional; if you can't use a given number, then the opponent HAS to use the number!

Major Shortcoming
The article totally lacks an explanation of how the men are put onto the board. The article and many online sources are clear that the game starts with all the men/checkers/pieces off the board, but nobody says much about how they get put on. This is an important part of the game as I remember it from the wardroom of the USS Rankin 45 years ago, but I don't remember the details. I'm looking for a source that explains it. Online sources don't seem to. Lou Sander (talk) 13:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Terminology
Various sources call backgammon's moving pieces "stones," "men," "checkers," etc. I've standardized this article to call them "pieces." I hope there aren't strong objections. Lou Sander (talk) 15:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

- One observation: Depending on how the article is interpreted, is seems to suggest that "5. A player can move pieces even if he has pieces on the bar." In our rules, one can move pieces around while there are still pieces that have not yet entered the inner board from opening play (i.e., not yet all aboard). But if "kicked" and pieces remain on the bar, no pieces can be moved until all "kicked" pieces have been brought aboard. So that is either a variant to the game, or the way it is written isn't exactly clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.29.43.1 (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Acey-deucey starting
page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acey-deucey article does not explain who rolls first or first roll. 68.230.108.172 (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2023 (UTC)