Talk:Achatina achatina

Natural enemies.
Regarding this edit by Androstachys, the source says: "Since there are often no natural enemies...". It does not say: "... often with Man as the only natural enemy". Man is not mentioned. I have reverted per WP:SYNTH. DVdm (talk) 10:22, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Androstachys reverted again with a message on my talk page. I have pointed to this section on the article's talk page, and reverted again, pending consensus. Other opinions about this? - DVdm (talk) 12:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Gee - could you be cherry picking from the source? A search of the same source using the phrase 'Achatina achatina' rather than your more limiting phrase 'Achatina achatina natural enemies', turns up "the most popular genus utilised for human nutrition is the Achatina with Achatina achatina......". Did I somehow misinterpret what this means? Androstachys (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * One must always be careful with interpretations not to go into WP:SYNTH. Besides, i.m.o. the phrase "natural enemies" usually excludes us, humans, aka "Man" anyway. Let's see what other contributors think. DVdm (talk) 15:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And please don't put 3RR warnings on my talk page. DVdm (talk) 15:33, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Where do you suggest I put them? Androstachys (talk) 08:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I should have put that request about 3RR on your user talk page. It does not belong on article talk space. My apologies. DVdm (talk) 09:18, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Androstachys, I notice that again (if I counted correctly, for the 4th time now) you removed the carefully referenced phrase "often with no natural enemies". You now replaced it with predation by disease and by Man. I.m.o. neither really count as what is generally understood by "natural enemies", but let's not start a discussion about that - I see what you mean and I have no problem with keeping that. I think that we need to say something about this as an introduction to the remark about the population problem in the next sentence. So I have added the original phrase:
 * The species is subject to predation by disease and as a food item by African tribes, and often it has no other natural enemies.

If you like, we can replace "and often" with "but often", but surely we can both live with this, right? DVdm (talk) 10:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

By the way, I have cast the long url reference into a properly templated journal citation. DVdm (talk) 11:48, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

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"gigantocochlea"
I question the name "gigantocochlea". I could find no references on the web that didn't seem to have been copied from Wikipedia, other than the genus name of the house-sized fictional giant pink snail from Dr. Doolittle. (https://fiction-taxonomy.fandom.com/wiki/Great_glass_sea_snail) Obsolete but legitimate genus and species names usually leave some traces in the scientific literature.

I marked it with a "citation needed" tag rather than outright deleting it. Aliza250 (talk) 16:41, 16 July 2023 (UTC)