Talk:Action Button Entertainment

New sources
czar 19:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * http://cjonline.com/life/arts-entertainment/2014-09-14/topekan-finds-career-video-game-developer-ziggurat

LLC in lede
To avoid an edit war, let me be clear: Both articles you linked (Naming conventions (companies) and Article titles) both only discuss the title of the article. And that is completely right, I wouldn't move the page to Action Button Entertainment LLC, that wouldn't make sense. But neither of the two loses a word about using the full (in this case legal) name in the lede and infobox. Especially the latter includes examples that speak against your saying. See for example FIFA and McLaren, both of which put the legal title first, and append the short name if necessary (for FIFA, the short-hand is an acronym and thus differs length and word count, and is not directly included in the full name, wherefore it is mentioned after the full name, while the common name "McLaren" is already included in its legal title wherefore it does not have to be re-stated, as would be in this article). Given this, your argument is not sourced through either linking, and the omission of the LLC does not improve the article, so I'd kindly ask you the place it back where it belongs. Lordtobi ( &#9993; ) 20:28, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Adding to my above statement, Official names clearly states "[The official name] should always be provided early in an article's introduction, bolded at its first mention and, where appropriate, italicized.", and Naming conventions (companies) (which you linked to) reads Regardless of the article title, the first sentence of the article should normally begin with the full legal name of the company" Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 21:04, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Tobi, this is not the first time you have referred to letter of law where common sense alone would be sufficient. All advice on the lede says to introduce the article accessibly—there is no need to put LLC, Inc., etc. in the lede when the company (especially a small business) is not known in sources by the extra initials. czar  22:06, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * So you are saying that your opinion now equals common sense, which then outweights guidelines? Sorry, but that is not everyone's point of view. Three letters and one space do not make a lede more or less accessible, but leaving them out would simply be omission of detail, as small and uncrucial it may be, but my opinion is that it should be included, while the guidelines linked only underline it. Furthermore, I don't think that people set up this guideline to purposefully go against common sense, but decided upon by consensus. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 19:13, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. The first sentence of the lede is the most sacred part of the article, and it is not necessary to pay tribute to official titles when they do not reflect how the source is commonly known in sources. If consistently recalled with its suffix in sources, add it where necessary in the article text. Also there was no need to add similar suffixes to all of the other entries in Category:Independent video game developers. czar  16:29, 17 March 2017 (UTC)