Talk:Acura Integra

Too much subjective content; not enough facts.

Proposed move
I've proposed moving this article to Acura Integra on WP:RM. I'm not sure why it's here in the first place; it's named as if it was the target of a disambiguation page, but there's no disambig, so it should be under the name that readers would type in to find the article. &mdash; mendel &#9742; _ * _ 01:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I concur, if you visit the disambig page at Honda Integra you can see the process that (probably) led to the current name, since the other disambiguated pages are Honda Integra (Europe) and Honda Integra (Japan), but I think the proper course of action would be to rename this page and list it on the disamb page as " Acura Integra (North America) ".
 * Fox1 (talk) 01:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, yeah, that does explain it. For the benefit of anyone stopping by from WP:RM not familiar with the car, there are no other markets in which the car is called an Acura, so unlike the Honda Integra, qualifying "Acura Integra" is redundant. &mdash; mendel &#9742; _ * _ 02:15, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Outcome
Move request fulfilled. Rob Church Talk 20:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

What a stupid outcome, even the damn engine has honda stampted on it. --60.224.133.149 06:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion
Would anyone dissapprove of adding sections for each model year. Such as 1993 Acura Integra, 1994 Acura Integra, etc. I've got some model year specific pictures, but I don't think they would add interest to this page. They would also enable people who have knowledge about their year to submit it. Thanks, Clint


 * The only time more than one picture is justified for a single generation of any car would be for a facelift (i.e., the '98 Integras vs. the '94-'97s). Though that would be worth having pictures of. RobertM525 07:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Year break-down
I don't think it is relevant to detail each year. There were minimal changes from year to year, usually just colors. The Integra was made from 1986-2001, so that would simply be far too many subsections.

Thegsrguy 16:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)Thegsrguy

3rd generation picture
Is a base-model sedan really the best representation of the 3rd generation Integra? Wouldn't a coupe--which was far more popular--be more appropriate? And a GS-R at that, as it was the best "mortal" :) version of the Integra. I've got a '98 Integra GS-R, and I'll gladly put up a picture of it for our 3rd generation photo if no one disagrees. (Fully stock, of course.) RobertM525 06:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Reason Why TSX Didn't Replace Integra Sedan
Like the CL was positioned between the Integra and the TL, the TSX would be positioned beween the Civic-based CSX (replaces Civic-based RSX and EL) and the TL. So looks like the TSX's only predecessor was the CL. Compare an '03 CL with an '04 TSX. According to MSN Autos, the TSX is more expensive than a CL. The Integra's only successor is the RSX, because it is Civic-based. CL was longer than a TSX, but it was a coupe version of the TL. -- Bull-Doser 19:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This may come as a shock to your philosophy, but not everything has a predecessor. IFCAR 19:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Main image?
The main image, a blurry photo of a first generation sedan, seems a bit inappropriate. First, because the picture quality stinks. Second, because I would say the iconic generation of the Integra was the third one and, thus, if we were to have a main picture for all of the Integra, I would say the 3rd generation would be the most appropriate. RobertM525 19:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems reasonable. Keep the 1st-gen 4-door somewhere in the article though, it's the only one I know of on Wikipedia. There should be some 3rd-gen Integras in the Commons if you want to switch it out. IFCAR 00:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Merge
I strongly suggest merging these two pages as they represent identical cars, no reason to have two pages especially considering the quality of the Acura page compared to the Honda page
 * I agree. Zilog Jones 19:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The only question is which page should be the redirect and which should be the main. I support the Honda page because the vehicle is only known as an Acura in the US and Canada.  Any opposition? --Daniel J. Leivick 05:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I support moving this article to Honda Integra and leaving Acura Integra a redirect. --Kuroki Mio 2006 23:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, this has being discussed before, and it was decided it should remain under the name of Acura. While it was sold in other countries apart from the US, It did become a model that was specifically designed for US tastes, and sales in the US outsold other nations. But if Honda Integra does warrant it's own article, I believe sicne there are notable differences between both, and is confusing have them both on the same page, it would be warrantable to have seperate articles for the Acura Integra, Honda Integra, and Acura RSX. Actually, this could be a good idea. There are seperate articles for the Acura TSX and Honda Accord JDM, Honda Legend and Acura TL etc. Also the fact that Honda is bringing the Acura name to Japan to the rest of the world justifies the name, as if the RSX hadn't being discontinued, it would have being sold as an Acura RSX worldwide eventually. --IvanKnight69 11:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Completely Wrong Name
Hi, not being anti-American or anything but Acura is America only. You know the world exists, maybe this article should be called the HONDA Integra. It's made by Honda and sold as a Honda in more countries than it's sold as an Acura. Friggit 23:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I basically agree with you, but when I merge the articles Acura had the most content and I just deleted most of what was on the Honda page. I was too lazy to change all the instances of Acura to Honda.  I would have zero objection to changing it to Honda Integra. --Daniel J. Leivick
 * Are you able to change it, I'm not too experienced with regards to changing this at all. Friggit 22:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken, this has being discussed before, and it was decided it should remain under the name of Acura. While it was sold in other countries apart from the US, It did become a model that was specifically designed for US tastes, and sales in the US outsold other nations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IvanKnight69 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Personally I think that the Accord JDM and TSX article should also be merged as they are nearly identical cars. The differences between the JDM and TSX model can be discussed in one article.  The problem with having two article is that one generally gets all the editing while the other languishes.   This was the case with the old Honda Integra page, it contained almost no content that was not repeated on the Acura page.  --Daniel J. Leivick 19:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Friggit, in the country that the Integra originates from it is sold under the Honda name. That alone should be enough require the article to be called Honda Integra. Discussion or not I'm going to move it and see what happens. IJB TA 12:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Type-R Transmission
Doesen't the Integra Type-R only come in manual? If it does, I think it would be noteworthy enough to put under the Type-R section. Not many newer cars come only in manual. If it does come in automatic, feel free to deleat this :-D 71.98.156.88 23:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's true, they only come in manual, but the GS-R is also manual only, so that doesn't make the Type R special. Perhaps it should be added to both the GS-R and Type R sections.Gansan 22:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Highest redline ever in a production vehicle? (3rd gen.)
I owned a '94 LS coupe (5-spd.) for 11 years. I always liked to brag that its redline was the highest ever for any production vehicle. (I always thought it was 8100 or 8200 RPM, but Wikipedia says 8400.) Can someone confirm this? And if so, provide a reference to it, because I think it's a pretty darn important distinction for a car to have.

I have the owner's manual right here, but it doesn't say. I seem to remember the highest-ever-RPM touting in Acura's TV and/or print ads for the Integra back when it came out. Perhaps this only applied to the GS-R? (I once went 116mph in my LS on a Tennessee highway... not to brag...) Thanks, Chris77xyz 04:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

According to the article redline there are a few other cars mentioned as having a higher redline than the Integra; the RX-8 at 9000 RPM may be the highest in a production car, but even then there are motorcycle engines that redline over twice that. Daivox 23:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Coupe not hatchback
I know it is a fine line but I believe that the Integra is a coupe body style rather than a hatchback. A hatchback does not have a normal boot and the roof extends most, if not all the way to the rear of the car. The rear of a Honda/Acura Integra is more a normal boot in a 2 door car, making it a coupe.

I think it should be changed in the tables on the right from hatchback to coupe.

Proud 2 be australian 11:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Content is too US-centric and leaves out a few Honda (as opposed to Acura) Integra Models
For instance, the second generation Integra ZX and ZXi 1590cc dual carb and injector models are missing.

See http://asia.vtec.net/specs/daintegra/

Also, the Integra comes in Sedan and Coupé models, not Sedan and Hatchback.