Talk:Ad Halom

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Actually, the Egyptian army didn't want to arrive to Tel Aviv. there plan was to stop in Ad Halom, because this was the limit beween Israel and Palstine. Doronef 08:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect. First of all there were no borders. If you mean 1947 UN plan of sharing, so the border should be nothern near Yavne. Egiptian army attacked along the road to Tel-Aviv destroying all jewish settlements like Yad-Mordehai or Negba. It was a war and not limited army operation, so keeping any point can be only part of operation plan and every success must be engraved. Shmuliko 09:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * What borders would one refer to if not the 1947 UN plan? The historical facts are that the Zionists attacked and ethnically cleansed Ashdod, not that Egypt attacked Tel Aviv. MX44 12:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Wellcome back. To learn about "historical facts" you should read not biased references. The war operations occured all over Palestine. There were arab villages in jewish part and jewish villages in arab part. Egyptian offencive threaten Tel-Aviv. Tel Aviv also was bombed by egyptian airplanes. The counter offencive near Ashdod at spring 1948 was not successfull at all. The bridge explosion and lack of schedulled supply prevent egyptian forces from additional progress. To learn more about ethnically cleaning at that time, read about Yad-Mordehai and Negba fate. Shmuliko 18:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You forgot to mention that the Tel Aviv Squadron (based in Sde Dov) had been terror bombing local Palestinians since 17 december 1947. A counter strike against airfields around Tel Aviv does not prove any Egypt intent of invasion (unless you also want to argue that recent bombings of Lebanon proves Israeli intent of invasion ...) The only fact you have here is that Ben Gurion was scared that this might be the case and decided not to find out. MX44 12:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * As far as I know Egyptian air forces (also not something very strong) bombed few times in Tel Aviv prior the first Me-109 arrived from Czechoslovakia. The bombings are good evidenced. It was stopped after those attacks was responded. I'm not sure about the dates but I can check. "terror bombing local Palestinians" on Me-109 is funny. Lets finish on the statement that in the war there no knights and evils.Shmuliko (talk) 17:59, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Me-109 is not the plane you are looking for. Try RWD-13. MX44 (talk) 08:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The Battle
Israel attacked Egypt before they reached the bridge and thus still in Gaza (as of by the division plan of -47):


 * In May, 1948, Israel dispatched four Messerschmidt airplanes to stop the advance of the Egyptians, who had almost reached Ashdod and were proceeding towards Tel Aviv. Two of the Israeli planes were piloted by foreigners and two by natives of Palestine. Ezer Weizman was one of the latter. Our "fleet" won that battle, and there is a bridge at the farthest point of the Egyptian advance, dubbed "Ad Halom" - which means "Till Here."

http://www.uhcg.org/news/Arutz-7-News.html


 * Israeli agents negotiated the purchase of Avia S-199’s from the Czechoslovakian government in defiance of an arms embargo that Israel faced at this time. Twenty-five aircraft were obtained, and all but two were eventually delivered. The first examples arrived on May 20, 1948, six days after Israel’s declaration of independence, and five days after the commencement of hostilities by Egypt. They were assembled and sent into combat for the first time on May 29th, attacking the Egyptian Army between Isdud and the current Ad Halom Bridge, south of Tel Aviv.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/hc/kit_hc_1524.shtml

MX44 (talk) 00:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)