Talk:Adam Air

1 January incident
Media reported that an airliner lost contact today http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3175980/ The Boeing 737-400 was carrying 96 passengers, including seven children, four infants and six crew, Indonesia's El-Shinta radio reported. http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1245632,00.html?f=dta


 * Any reason why this incident shouldn't be covered in the main article? I reverted the edit which removed mention of it. Ζεύς 15:29, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Flight is now documented at Adam Air Flight 574. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  16:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Do we know this plane has officially crashed? The news I can find reports the plane is missing at this hour. AWatiker 19:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * At present, the aircraft is still missing. See the article for further information, and keep checking it, its likely that it will be updated within minutes if the plane is found. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  23:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Logo
Now that the airline is front page, can someone get the logo for this article? It is white-on-red, and from what I've seen looks like a flying male figure, like Icarus. Chris 05:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * A foreign-language wikipedia has one at, but don't ask me what its copyright status is (although I think logos fall under fair use, is this correct?) Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  17:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Flight 574 entry getting a little big
Hey, am I the only one here who thinks the article's entry is a little bit long? Go look up any airline - even it one with a recent crash, such as Comair - and you will see that the entrys for incidents and accidents are generally only a sentence or two, leaving the real talking to the article itself. Do you think we should be shortening the entry here for flight 574? Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  07:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

You maybe right, however you must remember that unlike other airline disasters which are located right away, I believe this disaster has captured the interest of people around the world because they can not find it. I think it is the fact of the unknown that is driving the evolving article. I can't say that I agree with it, because of my opinions about accuracy and accountabilty, but I think I understand it. The thing you really have to watch for now is for all the real wacko theories to come out of the woodwork. Mrebstad 03:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes; we've already had extraterestrial activity over on the article talk page. Still, people in charge of these things have been known to make terrible mistakes regarding commercial aricraft, it's begining to look possible. I will try and trim down the entry here a little bit, though, sometime. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  09:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it is a bit big. Surely just saying they lost a plane, date of the accident and a link to the wiki page for it is suffcient? MM

Per the consensus reached here, I have removed most of the entry. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  12:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Can we please keep use of tabloid-journalism language away from articles like this? Saying things like "the ill-fated plane" serve only to reinforce the public misconception that aviation is dangerous. Sure, accidents happen, but when was the last time you read a news report saying "Mr Smith boarded the ill-fated car less than an hour before the head-on collision"... Lasiorhinus 03:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Since I wrote most of the new material on Adam Air since the Jan 1 crash, i guess this is my responsibility, if only for not removing it. I did a quick double check, but I don't see it anywhere else in the thre articles (Adam Air, Adam Air Flight 574 and Adam Air Flight 172), and I promise to try and keep it out in future. Thanks, Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  07:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

"Proof" of navigational systems problems
I removed this from the article, as it is not proof; it is from a blog or newsgroup.
 * This article on a professional pilot forum also proves the poor navigational systems implemented by the airline.

Flyguy649 18:59, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Should Flight 172 get it's own article?
I'm wondering if this particular flight should be given it's own article - although no-one was seriously injured, it seems notable enough in that six Adam Air 737s are now grounded, and, especialy in Adam Air's present predicament, that can spell the end for an airline. Any thoughts? Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  21:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm against a new article until we have a sufficient body of material here to warrant it being split off, which isn't the case yet. (Caniago 04:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC))
 * Someone else has created it anyway. See Adam Air Flight 172. I will do some work on it myself in the near future. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart  -  Receive My EviLove  18:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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Adam?
Where does the name come from, and what does it mean? I'd presume it comes from an Indonesian word, and not the Western Bible-derived name Adam... LordAmeth (talk) 03:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe it is actualy derived from the name; although I have never seen it actualy said by a source, it must surely be named after founder Adam Suherman? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Adam's fate
Adam Air is now officially finished, their fate has been sealed since first half of 2008, why nobody mention that in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.213.142 (talk) 02:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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