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Origin of Bishop Exner
I have a problem with understanding the text in the first chapter:
 * " His father was originally from Molodiia, while his mother came from Derelui. Both families lived on a homestead in Mariahilf and emigrated at the turn of the 20th century."

I read it in this way that they had once lived in a Bukovina homestead named Mariahilf and then emigrated to Canada. But there are several places with name Mariahilf in Europe. Your link goes to Mariahilf, an inner quarter of the town of Vienna. I doubt this being correct.

There is a Mariahilf in Bukovina, indeed, without en:WP-article, today part of the town of Kolomyia in Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast of Ukraine. The grandparents were from Molodiia and Derelui (today part of Voloka), in Chernivtsi Oblast, both near to the region's capital Chernivtsi. (One should mention in the article that this region is today part of Ukraine.) The distance between there and Kolomyia is only about 80 km, so perhaps the grandparents had moved there.

But reading reference no.7, I get the impression that Mariahilf is a place in Canada:
 * "His parents, Joseph Exner of Molodia and Frances née Gelowitz of Derelui immigrated to Canada as children [...], homesteading with their families in Mariahilf, a community inhabited mainly by Bukovinians. [...] In Saskatchewan the first Molodia immigrants had founded the village of Mariahilf, where most of their compatriots settled."

But where in Saskatchewan? It is also possible, of course, that they emigrated from Mariahilf (Ukraine, then Austrian Empire) to Mariahilf (Canada). The reader of this article has to guess which of these three scenarios is the historically correct one. It would be useful to find a clearer wording for the origin.

It may be of interest to European readers to what extend his European roots had any importance for him. I read in reference source no.9, sub-chapter "First Holy Communion" the episode:
 * "[...] was prepared for first confession and first Holy Communion at our local country school by a seminarian from Germany. He spoke no English, but that was no problem because we didn't know much English either; instruction in German was just fine." So it seems that he could speak and understand German rather well.

In this new Good Article we have a photo of Winnipeg cathedral, why not of Vancouver cathedral, too? Unfortunately there is no photo of Exner. But perhaps one could add a remark to footnote no.1, that it includes a fine photo of Bishop Exner. Dioskorides (talk) 22:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing out that discrepancy. There is indeed a Mariahilf in Saskatchewan, located near Exner's birthplace of Killaly.  I've consequently clarified this in the article.  Re. having a photo of Winnipeg cathedral but not Vancouver's is because Exner oversaw extensive renovations to the former but not the latter.  I see little value in including a photo of Vancouver cathedral simply on the basis that it was where his chair was located – otherwise there'd be a strong argument in favour of including one of Kamloops cathedral (despite neither Vancouver nor Kamloops having as much relevancy to the article text as Winnipeg's).  Also, it's not recommended practice on WP to put remarks in references as to photos (regardless of its quality). —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:29, 20 March 2024 (UTC)