Talk:Added tone chord

Inversion
Isn't it a bit silly to say suspended fourths are "far more common" than suspended seconds, since they are really just inversions of one another? --64.81.149.67 14:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, then one inversion is more common than the other. But in reality, you expect a certain root in a given surrounding, and only one "inversion" fulfills that expectation. --91.32.55.66 (talk) 19:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

No, see inversion (music). A fourth inverted is a fifth. A second inverted is a seventh. Hyacinth (talk) 14:17, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Hyacinth, I think you misunderstood the OP. Take a sus4 for example, Csus4, that is, C-F-G. Its first inversion, F-G-C, is indeed Fsus2. Ahyangyi (talk) 16:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Fourth below the root?
It says here "An added tone, such as that added a perfect fourth below the root, may suggest polytonality". To me, it suggests a second inversion. This may be a mistake, but I can actually see a point there if the context is a chain of second inversion chords. But even then, it would not constitue an added tone in my understanding. --91.32.55.66 (talk) 19:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * See Talk:Polytonality. Hyacinth (talk) 20:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Removed
I removed the above as uncited. Hyacinth (talk) 03:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Carl Perkins' "Movie Magg" and "Blue Suede Shoes", Ronnie Hawkins' "Red Hot", Scotty Moore's accompaniment in Elvis Presley's "That's All Right (Mama)", and "Ballad of John and Yoko."

Possible use of add4 in Floyd's "Dogs" . . . ?
I wrote a fair amount of the "Dogs (Pink Floyd song)" article, and in listing the four main chords, I went with the names they were given by Guitar World magazine. The second chord goes like this (low to high): B♭, E♭, F, B♭, D. Guitar World named it E♭maj7sus2/B♭, and that does make perfect sense. But it is a long name. Would "B♭(add4)" be equally appropriate? I'm not sure having an answer even matters, because if it's not in a citeable source, it might be considered original research to go changing the name, and that's verboten. But I would be interested to see what others think. --Ben Culture (talk) 12:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

incomplete sentence
"An example of an added tone chord may be found in Igor Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms[7] while an added tone (G) chord with mixed thirds, a major third and minor third, by William Schuman." What by William Schuman? -- megA (talk) 10:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Cmsus4
There is no such thing as a "minor sus" chord. Is the chord's third is not present, then you can't call it "minor." Label should be "Csus4."71.87.23.98 (talk) 15:28, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * "minor sus" refers to a suspended chord, so the label for an added tone chord rather than suspended chord should be "Cmadd4". Hyacinth (talk) 03:07, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Examples of added-second / added-ninth chords
I'm not sure about the example of Mr. Mister's "Broken Wings". If the beginning of the song is meant, I think it rather sounds like a sequence of suspended second chords without a third (something like Gsus2 - Fsus2 - Csus2). Or was a different part of the song meant (even if the beginning is just sus2 chords there may still be add9 chords elsewhere)? --79.240.195.80 (talk) 23:07, 13 July 2018 (UTC)