Talk:Adolf Hitler in popular culture

icu-triage
This article's a real mess. The list format needs to be killed, and rather than just being a list of random references to Hitler (because he shows up in too many places for that to work), it should actually attempt to explain his significance in popular culture. In addition this needs sourcing.

Hitler has turned up in a number of video games. Should these be added to "Hitler in fiction" or perhaps a separate section, "Hitler in video games?" --Feitclub 05:48, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC
 * In my opinion, that should go under a separate section. I'm curious, though, what games has Hitler been in?  I do a lot of gaming, and I don't recall him being in any games.  Perhaps he's been mentioned in the many WWII games, but I've certainly never seen him as a 3D character.--Daveswagon 2 July 2005 22:22 (UTC)
 * He was in Wolfenstein 3D as one of the end-level bosses. Psychonaut 3 July 2005 09:49 (UTC)

One could almost make an entire section on The Simpsons referrences to Hitler. There's a list of them under the "Germany" subheading here.--Daveswagon 04:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Lack of other side

 * On the page there is mentioned that Hitler during his lifetime was depicted as glorious hero, but no examples given, all examples are just those of mockering.

Good point. Wikipedia is expected to be objective even when addressing politically incorrect topics and issues such as Hitler. Mainstream German popular culture of the Third Reich era (30 Jan 1933-08 May 1945) in Germany portrayed him as a glorious hero and the savior of Germany. Someone who knows more than I do about this should provide documented examples in the interest of providing objectivity to this entry.

Take note: This is not neo-Nazism. All dictators are depicted as glorious leaders during the time of their rule. Hitler and Germany was no different in this respect than Stalin and the Soviet Union, Chairman Mao and the People's Republic of China or Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il in the People's Democratic Republic of Korea. {66.162.249.170 (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)}

Of course this information should be added, with CLEAR AND CONCISE warnings putting it in proper context. This is the very best user name of them all (talk) 02:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Template
We're having a debate on Template talk:Adolf Hitler about whether to include Triumph of the Will and The Empty Mirror as pop culture references. Any thoughts? Palm_Dogg 06:14, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

DC Universe Hitler
Well, http://www.dcuguide.com/board/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=279&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 should just about cover that.

George Foreman did a time boxer skit. Few more come to mind.

Cats that look like Hitler
I don't have the time right now to look through this whole article, but I saw a website dedicated to cats resembling Adolf (actually called catsthatlooklikehitler.com). Was this posted up here at all or is it just not needed?

Someone did take care of that, scroll down to the "Other" section. Xenobiologista (talk) 18:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)Xenobiologista

I smell a weasel, or is that a stankin opossum?
"Hitler was a gifted, charismatic orator possessed of a profound personal presence, "

Weasel words like I've never heard them before. I myself am too lazy to change it, but just pointing it out, that it should neutralizalized to make it sound more encyclopediac-er. Cha.68.34.239.31 06:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I do agree that the above sentence may sound weaselish... but then again, Hitler was a highly gifted a capable leader who was well know for his oratory skills. Please read the below post for more comments... MickeyK 22:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

General Suggestions
I suggest that the entire section (the introduction) which is a brief bio on Hitler, be removed. This article is about Hitler in popular culture, not Hitler himself. MickeyK 22:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I added a reference to the popularity of the Emo hitler internet meme. Seen it enough to know it is notableYou very nice place 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone should remove the reference to the XBox one being the first, as this one in spanish is older: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RTYO0TT5C8 Ciobanica (talk) 23:33, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Hitler Vs. Stalin
http://www.comics.aha.ru/rus/stalin/ Is this worth mentioning?

TV SHOW WITH HITLER IN IT?
oh yea i remember one time when i was 7 or 8,that on the show Hey Arnold the Veterans day episode speacial that in the end,the grandpa says that he won WW2 by killing Hitler by giving him nugies,wegdies and poking him in the eye. I totally remembered that.IT WAS IN A CHILDRENS SHOW! HOW HILARIOUS IS THAT!? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.104.48.140 (talk) 01:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Family Guy
As I know of, three Family Guy references to Hitler exist. One, if Hitler were still alive (where he has a talk show), another with Eva Braun where they joke about taking pills to kill themselves, and another with "Peter Hitler", who is "Adolf's favorite brother".  Zchris87v  06:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Name
Why not rename this "Adolf Hitler in popular culture"?  Sala Skan  12:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "Hitler" is mostly associated with Adolf Hitler. Hitler redirects to the Adolf Hitler article and requires a disambiguation page, even there only 6 out of 23 links are unrelated to Adolf Hitler. As evidenced by the disambiguation page and redirecting of Hitler, Adolf Hitler is the most common one. "Hitler in popular culture" seems to be sufficient.  Zchris87v  16:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, the title is not that confusing, but what are the downsides of renaming it "Adolf Hitler in popular culture"? It is slightly clearer, and nearly all people in Category:Representations of people in popular culture seem to have their first name included in the title.  Sala Skan  18:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Please see my recent addition to this talk page as to why NOT title this page "Hiter in Popular Culture". According go this cites own definitions, he is neither popular or of culture. This is the very best user name of them all (talk) 03:02, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Removal of Hitler in Persona 2
>rv; it's a single reference of questionable importance with no relevance to popular views -- user:Eyrian

Yes, it does. I suggest you read the List of Persona 2 characters first before RV. If the case of Persona 2 is a trivia, this whole list is a trivia as well. One more RV and I will nominate this article to deletion. -- Sameboat - 同舟 01:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Please do. That particular one was removed because the other examples at least serve to illustrate popular opinions/views on Hitler, while that one did not. --Eyrian 01:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Just popping in here (I got redirected), but this article is plainly trivia. The "popular culture" sections of every article that I've seen have been removed since the trivia ruling. It doesn't even have any thoughtful analysis about Charlie Chaplin or anything, it's not different than the article on supervillains which merely lists about 200000 villains (at least it did, until I got through with it :D) with no references. Any article which is just a giant list of redirects to other articles is usually pretty dubious, imo. Johnnyfog 01:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and taken the initiative. You can continue to rearrange the deck chairs (in spite of WP:3RR), though. --Eyrian 01:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. Now I can get back to what I was doing.Johnnyfog 01:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

FMA
Hitler was in Fullmetal Alchemist the movie. I added it but it disapeared while I was looking for the right spelling24.81.59.101 23:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It was removed because it was a trivial mention; there was no asserted importance to the work in question. Wikipedia is not a trivia collection. --Eyrian 23:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

His appearance was a major plot point24.81.59.101 04:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree that he was of importance in the movie, in other television shows such as Family Guy he is featured in very short sequences. Who has the right to say what is trivial or not?DarkAvenger280 20:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Hitler Hardcore Techno Remix
I recently added a point about a track which is sometimes credited as DJ Adolf Hitler with the track "Seig Heil". Due to the fact that the information can only really be retrieved from P2P networks, it is very difficult to reference the source. Is there any way around this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IdeologicalArrest (talk • contribs) 23:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Another novel to add to the list
Éric-Emmanuel Schmitt wrote The Alternative Hypothesis, a fiction in which Hitler becomes a successful painter in a peaceful, thriving 20th century Germany. Hugo Dufort (talk) 03:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Adolph or Adolf?
I was just watching Indiana Jones and the last crusade and Hitler does not sign his name as Adolph. He signs it Adolf.--84.55.118.43 (talk) 04:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposed cleanup
This article is in very bad shape, and in my opinion needs to be completely rewritten. A list of this length simply is not acceptable--rather this article should focus on portrayals of Hitler (especially in film and literature) and what he has come to symbolize (namely evil incarnate). I'm going to begin cleaning out trivia, and would appreciate help. TallNapoleon (talk) 02:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I have started deleting things. It would be nice if instead of being a collection of lists this article discuss his actual significance in popular culture. TallNapoleon (talk) 21:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Little Nicky
What about Hitler at the end of little nicky? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.80.40.189 (talk) 00:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Is it relevant? This should not be a list of every appearance of a Hitler character in an anime, movie, TV series, comic book, or circus show; rather, it should discuss the most significant appearances and explain the general ways Hitler is characterized in pop culture. TallNapoleon (talk) 02:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Exactly! That's why we could drop some of the things mentioning Hitler's appearance in this film and that novel. It's not significant and the article is hard to read.--Kojozone (talk) 22:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hitler & Art
Do we really need this section? It's about Hitler's creative work, which should probably be placed somewhere in the main article about Hitler. But this would mean we keep only the Dali bit of information.--Kojozone (talk) 22:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hitlers' appearance in Lord Horror comics/novel
The British Lord Horror and Meng and Ecker comics by David Britton feature Nazi imagery in an acerbic surreal satire (to describe it generously). I'm not sure about the comics, but the novel Lord Horror features a character known as 'The Mugwump' who is evidently Hitler in all but name, hiding out in a cave on the British coast as an artist with a gigantic, carnivorous anthropomorphic penis that likes buns (not the most extreme part of the book either - the last book to be banned in the UK since Catcher in the Rye, I said it was surreal...) It's an obscure book of short-lived notoriety in Britain in the late '80s and early '90s, but I think this certainly warrants a mention?

The film "Contact"
Any reason the television broadcast of a Hitler speech from the movie (and book) Contact is not in this article? with no objections, i would like to add a sentence on this appearance, though i know its a different sort than other movie appearances.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 08:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, they got it ALK WRONG in the movie. The '36 Olympics was FAR from the furst TV broadcast, it was just the first Olympics to be broadcast, HUGE DIFFERENCE! Why on earth would Anyone want to give Hitler Any extra credit he didn't deserve is beyond me. This is the very best user name of them all (talk) 02:59, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Representations of Hitler During His Lifetime
"Brecht, who was German but left when the Nazis came to power, also expressed his opposition to the National Socialist and Fascist movements in other of his most famous plays." It would be most helpful if these plays were listed. Dick Kimball (talk) 19:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Obviously Furcht und Elend des Dritten Reiches (Fear and Misery of the Third Reich), Schweyk im Zweiten Weltkrieg (Schweik in the Second World War), Mutter Courage und ihre Kinder (Mother Courage and Her Children), Die Gesichte der Simone Machard (The Visions of Simone Machard), and Was kostet das Eisen? (How Much Is Your Iron?). Presumably there are more. Dick Kimball (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

J.C. Penney Teapot Controversy (people are saying it looks like Hitler)
Recently a controversy has come about with a teapot being sold by J.C. Penney - many people say it looks like Adolf Hitler. This issue started when a billboard in California with the teapot angered some people. Does anyone think this worth inclusion? Here are a few references:

http://business.time.com/2013/05/29/jcpenneys-hitler-tea-kettle-sells-out-online/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathansalembaskin/2013/05/30/fuss-over-hitler-teapot-suggests-marketing-opportunity-for-jc-penney/

The sources above are from Time and Forbes, respectively - searching "J.C. Penney Hitler Teapot" will bring up a bunch of other results. NWRGeek (talk) 22:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Article length, split?
I know there is minimal content about Hitler in culture during his lifetime but it seems that there is a lot more in the WP:RS to support expansion of the topic if it was an article. There rest is quite long and would still be even with a split. If the resulting article about culture during his lifetime was a shorter article that would be refresshing and I guarantee it will grow to a much longer and useful article which could perhaps broaden itself to aspect of Nazi culture if indeed it seemed stalled as a short article. But even if the section was made into an article today, I think that it would be a pretty decent short article and certainly more than a stub. Wikidgood (talk) 00:42, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't believe it needs to be split in two at this point. It presents better to the reader as a whole. Some expansion could be done, as long as it is not redundant. "Culture during his lifetime" is already covered by other articles on Hitler and Nazi Germany, so there would not be a need for much herein. Further, in its current form, this article could use some editing for concision. Kierzek (talk) 01:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i agree we are not there yet, which is why no formal split proposal. But clearly comic books and impact on scholars, historians and high art is different. And sayas opposed to Nazisploitation films (not sure I got the spelling right). So please clarify where exactly is all of this culture during his lifetime coverage, exactkly? Is it in sections? Is there a secondary and tertiary literature on it, I would expect so. But it seems lkike you say to be intermingled. Wikidgood (talk) 05:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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Worth noting?
In Rod Serling's The Twilight Zone Magazine, October 1982 there was "Alive and Well in ..." by Michael S. Smith. Hitler uses a time machine to escape to South America some 33 years into the future. His face altered by plastic surgery Hitler tumbles into what looks like a missionary complex and accepts a drink offered by a woman. Suddenly tired he sits down underneath a speaker remembering the November 1978 date on his time machine... as the voice of Jim Jones rants from a speaker above him.--BruceGrubb (talk) 01:45, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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How do the words "Adolph Hitler" & "Popular Culture" go together?
According to this very website, Popular is defined as follows: Popularity or social status is the quality of being well liked, admired or well known to a particular group.

While this site defines Culture as such: Culture is the social behavior and norms found in human societies.

Unless wikipedia has become home to mostly nazis living in some secret fourth reich, I would maintain that Adolph Hitler is neither Popular or Cultured for that matter.

While I understand he 'is' Popular to Nazi's and Nazi sympayhizers and his legacy is immense interest among many people, that still doesn't fit this site's own definition (nor most 'respected' dictionaries') of popular. I believe using the words popular and culture are inappropriate to describe any Fascist leader or their henchpeople.

Hopefully the powers that be will consider retitling this and Any/All simillar entries on this site. Thank you kindly. This is the very best user name of them all (talk) 02:52, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

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Very simplistic, insufficiently sourced, broad claim
The following is too broad:

“After his death, Hitler continued to be depicted as incompetent or foolish. However, while Hitler's anti-Semitic policies were well known during his lifetime, it was only after his death that the full extent of the Holocaust and other Nazi atrocities became known. This, coupled with Hitler no longer being a threat, has meant that the way he is depicted has resulted in Hitler being personified as evil.”

He has been portrayed both ways in both periods, and the ‘became known’ is a bit vague too. I suggest this be deleted if it can’t be tightened up. 2600:1017:B83D:B13:8DB1:3301:E045:3B91 (talk) 01:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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