Talk:Adrenaline Mob

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted because... --Ryry17354 (talk) 23:02, 3 August 2011 (UTC) The reason this page shouldn't be deleted is because this is a new band that doesn't have a Wikipedia page yet.
 * It appears this may have more notability than I first gave it credit for, but it was written like a non-notable band. I will withdraw the speedy nomination. Cmprince (talk) 23:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

re: Adrenaline Mob does not fit the criteria for 'Supergroup'
'Adrenaline Mob' fails to meet the criteria for 'Supergroup' as defined by Wikipedia:

"...the term supergroup was coined to describe "a rock music group whose performers are already famous from having performed individually or in other groups"..."

If we stay within the Wikipedia community to further define 'famous', we find:

Famous > Fame > Celebrity "A celebrity, also referred to as a celeb in popular culture, is a person who has a prominent profile and commands a great degree of public fascination and influence in day-to-day media..."

As such: While Mike Portnoy (drums) certainly qualifies, and a case could be made for Russell Allen (vocals) and Rich Ward (guitars), Mike Orlando (guitars)and Paul DiLeo (bass guitar) most certainly do not qualify.

Neither Mike Orlando nor Paul DiLeo can be considered 'already famous' by Wikipedia standards before joining 'Adrenaline Mob'.

Therefore, as 'Adrenaline Mob' does not meet the Wikipedia standard criteria for 'Supergroup', I submit that the 'Supergroup' definition be eliminated from the 'Adrenaline Mob' page and any/all associated links. GhostWorks (talk) 18:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * A supergroup is a music group formed by artists who are already notable or respected in their fields. The three founding members of the band were notable prior to the creation of this group, making it fall under this definition.  However, semantics aside, reliable sources refer to this article's subject as a supergroup, which means that the article should reflect this.  It doesn't matter if they aren't a supergroup by one editor's interpretation of the term, Wikipedia is based on verifiability, not truth, and that they are a supergroup is verified by reliable sources. - SudoGhost 18:42, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The verification link you provided above is dated yesterday (02/08/2012) - as the assignation of the term 'Supergroup' to the band 'Adrenaline Mob' predates your link, it is not an applicable verification. Regardless, being referred to as a 'Supergroup' by a single online magazine editor who misuses the term does not constitute 'reliable verification' by any standard. GhostWorks (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If you have questions regarding the reliability of Revolver, you're more than welcome to bring it up at WP:RSN. However, the date of publication does not have any bearing on its ability to verify information in the article.  The information is verified and reflected by reliable sources, therefore it belongs in the article.  Again, please see WP:VNT.  Thank you. - SudoGhost 19:27, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is another source from June of last year, before this article existed, and before they ever performed live. They meet the definition of supergroup, and multiple reliable sources refer to them as such.  So unless there is a reason to not have it in the article, it will be restored.  - SudoGhost 20:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I've never heard this band, so I have no idea how they sound (I wasn't even aware of this article until someone removed its entry from an article on my watchlist), but there seems to be a misunderstanding of the term supergroup. It does not mean "a really good band" or even a popular one. A supergroup is a music group formed by artists who are already notable or respected in their fields. That's all. This band meets that definition, and is constantly referred to as such by reliable sources, giving the term sufficient weight to include it as a descriptor in the article, and reliably sourced information cannot be removed simply because someone disagrees with it. - SudoGhost 10:53, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Discussion redux
This is definitely not a supergroup. I don't need Webster's or any other technical terminology to back this up. The average music fan has never heard of these guys, therefore they can't be seriously labelled a supergroup. Wiki should be fact-based, not opinion-based. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikidu591 (talk • contribs) 04:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you think the definition of a supergroup is, but what people "have heard of" has nothing to do with it, nor does the band's popularity have anything to do with it. Hell, there are plenty of supergroups that do very, very poorly. If members of the band were "already famous from having performed individually or in other groups", that band is a supergroup. This article's subject meets that criteria, and this is backed by reliable sources. - SudoGhost 04:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * ...in your opinion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikidu591 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If by "my opinion" you mean "there's a defintion for supergroup, and this article not only meets that definition, but reliable sources also use supergroup to describe this article's subject", then yes, you've summed it up nicely. - SudoGhost 04:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

But shouldn't EVERY member of the band be well known in order to classify it a supergroup? This band has two well known members. Compared to Asia or Transatlantic, this is not a supergroup. - 7/12 6PM EDT.

Technical issues
Having an album infobox at this article is causing its title to be automatically displayed in italics. Is there a way to change this without removing the template? Victão Lopes I hear you... 19:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * By adding Italic title=no to .  However, the album infobox isn't really appropriate here, neither is the tracklisting.  I'm going to clean this section up to match the manual of styles, here and here.  However, if they meet the notability criteria of WP:NALBUMS, they could become their own albums, however, the infobox and track listings aren't appropriate here. - SudoGhost 23:55, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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