Talk:Adrian Fenty

Political career
Mentioning the Skinner issue is legitimate, but the wording isn't neutral POV ("PROVEN to be racially divisive") Nor is it legitimate to delete mention of any other issues in the campaign, so that only the Skinner issue is featured. A Wikipedia article isn't to be an anti-(anything) argument. RickDC 23:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Political Style
It is not "nonsensical" to state a candidate's political style, when it is accurately contrasted and unbiased. Thomasmallen 13:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Speculation and Weasel Words
I think that speculating over a politician's future is clearly POV. Take the following:

"Fenty's charisma, energy, youth, and multi-ethnic background could easily mark him for higher office. His election shows that he can appeal to rich and poor and black and white alike. He may be the perfect Democratic candidate for president in 2012 or 2016."

"could easily", "shows that he can appeal", "may be the perfect" are weasel words. This speculation could easily be interpreted as an endorsement.

If you can find a quote someone saying this, ie, from the Washington Times/Post, then I would be okay with it.--thequackdaddy 17:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Not Conforming To Neutral Standards
I removed this edit because it did not seem to work well with the neutrality rules. 'There is no good reason Fenty cannot be President of the United States. He has a genuine populist streak and a common touch that Barak Obama, Harold Ford, Jr, and Michael Steele lack.' In case anyone wondered.

Erich


 * This article is still in need of improvement in terms of citing sources, and striking a neutral tone. I just removed a paragraph of uncited promises for the future that sounded like an extract from a political ad.  Paulgush (talk) 19:08, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

At the risk of breaking the spirit of the Three Revert Rule
There are occasional edits of this page that suggest that people here do not understand Wikipedia's NPOV policies. My problem specifically lies with this obviously slanted paragraph.

Even should Fenty serve three terms as Mayor, he would still be just 48 when he left office, still quite young. Since Washington, D.C. is not allowed congressional representation, Fenty could pursue only the vice-presidency (should he be chosen to run with someone) or the presidency. A Fenty presidential candidacy makes a tremendous amount of sense, given Fenty's youth, energy, charisma, and multiracial background. This multifaceted background is what propelled him to such a stunning, broadbased victory in the September 12th DC mayoral primary. I read the Washington Post quite frequently. I have never read one newspaper article ever mentioning Adrian Fenty running for national office. This is at best speculation and at worst original research. Either way, it does not belong in Wikipedia.

Further, the author is making a clear attempt to make it seem like Fenty's victory in the DC primary suggests that DC primary politics are representative of all American politics. This again, does not conform to NPOV standards.

Lastly, I'm not comfortable with the diction used in this article. For example,

As a council member, Fenty has been praised for his attention to constituent services and has been noted for taking bold positions. He opposed public funding for a baseball stadium in the city and put forward an ambitious plan to fund a $1 billion capital improvement program for public schools. Though initially derided as impractical, Fenty's proposal gained momentum, and the Council later passed a bill authorizing funding for an ambitious capital improvement plan for the District's schools.[2] (Emphasis added)

I will not edit this word choice, and instead add an NPOV disclaimer at the top of the page.

I will remove the paragraph about him being a possible presidential candidate, however. --thequackdaddy 19:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
I've reworded the secion that led to an NPOV advisory to make it more objective and neutral in tone, RickDC 03:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
I'm satisfied with the chanes. I've gone ahead and removed the NPOV tag. --thequackdaddy 04:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Sequence: 5th or 6th mayor?
Fenty is usually called the fifth mayor, but he's actually the sixth. Marion Barry counts as both the second AND the fourth, in the same way that Grover Cleveland was both the 22nd and 24th president. Fenty is the fifth person to be elected, but since Barry was elected to nonconsecutive terms he counts twice.

Thus I've reverted the sequence, both in the infobox and in the main text, back to "6th." 68.55.115.149 05:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Second, fourth, and BEST!!!! Respect the Nightowl!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 22:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Birthdate?
Fenty's birthdate is listed as both Dec. 6 (infobox) and Dec. 7 (article). I can't find a reliable source for either date. Does anyone know the actual date? It looks bad having contradictary information stare at you right when you load the page. Bcody80 09:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, most sources say December 7 so that's what his infobox shall read. Bcody80 02:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Triathlon's
This article needs to reflect Adrian Fenty's other true passion in life, that is Triathlon's. He competes in just about every major Triathlon in the Washington, DC area is a legend within the community that he can manage his time to do so. Inside Triathlon will soon be doing a cover story on him I'm sure. He is relentless and a very positive role model for all when it comes to exercise. Joshuawilliamson 08:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If the article reflected his passion for "Triathlon's" that would just be embarrassing, because there's no apostrophe in "triathlons" and it isn't normally capitalized. Speaking of time management, how about a paragraph about how he has his police drivers break speed limits with lights and sirens just to get him from point A to point B?  THAT's gotta leave more time for training, and nothing need be said about the safety and legality issues.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 22:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Youngest mayor of a major US city?
Currently, yes, but not the youngest ever. Dennis Kucinich was mayor of Cleveland at a younger age than Fenty was when he became DC mayor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.51.254 (talk) 08:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

The article now states that he is "the second youngest mayor of a major American city." What is a "major American city"? Cleveland seems pretty "major" to me (pop. 478,403; compare Pittsburgh 312,819). This sentence, it seems, should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.103.200 (talk) 03:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cleveland is #40 in population, Pittsburgh is #59. Therefore, if Pittsburgh is a "major" city so is Cleveland, Fenty is then not the "second youngest mayor" (though he may be the third). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.103.200 (talk) 03:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Fenty's relative youthfulness (among current mayors of cities the size of Washington D.C. or larger) is notable. If editors want to omit this from the article based on a lack of a source citation, or want to refine the meaning of "major" cities, that's fine, though the logic above makes little sense to me. The article was referring to current mayors of such cities, not all past mayors, and Cleveland's larger population compared to Pittsburgh has no bearing with regard to the age of current mayors. &mdash;ADavidB 02:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

First Female
Can someone explain to me what "the first female born into the mayor's family in three generations" means? Are Fenty's mother and grandmothers not female? Binarybits (talk) 02:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The key word is "born". Fenty's mother and grandmother were not born into the family; they married into it. &mdash;ADavidB 10:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Who is to say that Fenty's father didn't marry into his mother's family? Binarybits (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The point remains that Fenty's parents and grandparents had no baby girls. &mdash;ADavidB 01:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I repeat my question: is Fenty's mother not female? Or do Fenty's maternal grandparents not "count?" Binarybits (talk) 02:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Proposed edit (because it is important to understand that titles in the Fenty family are passed down the male line): "The couple's third child, Aerin Alexandra Fenty, was born November 24, 2008. By patrilineal descent, she is the first female born to a male Fenty in three generations." --Gansura (talk) 02:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That at least has the virtue of being clear. Isn't it POV to focus on patrilineal descent though? Binarybits (talk) 04:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is this even relevant to anything? &mdash;Kinuven  19:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Shoe Size
Why is his shoe size listed? Is there something significant about it? Unless there is i believe that trivia is unnecessary for an encyclopedia article. --Mburi11 (talk) 23:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is "Fenty stands 6'0" tall[7] in size 11 1/2 shoes.[8]" included in this article? It is absurd to be in an encyclopedic article... Does he have any birthmarks? Moles or scars? As his shoe size is rather ordinary for his proportions, why is this in here?  Stevenmitchell (talk) 21:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Frosinone
"D - la Repubblica delle donne", an italian magazine, writes his mother comes from that city...213.156.52.122 (talk) 18:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, though more than a magazine name would be needed as a source citation. &mdash;ADavidB 01:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

This article is a disgrace
I've made some edits here and there to balance -- somewhat -- this piece, but it is a travesty. I don't have time to address the numerous controversies surrounding Chancellor Michelle Rhee, to deal with Fenty giving away public lands to developers who've contributed to his campaign, to closing a critical homeless shelter -- despite promises to the contrary, to declining elementary school test scores, to the widening gap between the city's haves and have-nots attributable at least in part to Fenty administration policies, to the growing polarization among Black and White in the city (ditto in terms of Fenty's policies), or to the very important matters of cronyism and corruption in the calculated circumventing of District laws regarding the awarding of government contracts in order to personally enrich Fenty's fratboyz and homies -- regardless of their qualifications to perform the work -- and the bundle of dough it cost the city to nullify those contracts.

Clearly, Fenty's "reign" as mayor hasn't been all sweetness and light. Everything can't be hunky-dory if a man who previously won a majority of votes in every, single precinct in the city in his first election bid is now trailing his closest contender, Vince Gray, at 17 percent. This article didn't even begin to reflect the reality of Fenty's campaign before my recent additions. Seems to me it's a pretty fair bet that someone connected to his campaign has been heavily involved in the crafting of this disgraceful puff piece. deeceevoice (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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