Talk:Aeroméxico Flight 498

Memorial monuments
Photos of Memorial Monuments show that the description is not accurate. The larger monument is to the people on BOTH planes while the smaller one is to those on the ground. The bench text describes the event and the resulting improvements to safety procedures. Fixerted (talk) 22:06, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Number of people in the Areomexico plane doesn't match in the article.


 * Good eye. I changed the death toll for the Aeromexico flight to 64, as per the NTSB Brief linked under the External Links. (Maaya 03:36, 20 August 2005 (UTC))

Please do not delete discussions. Thanks! :) Ste4k 06:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion - TCA
Many current pilots and aviation enthusiasts may not know what a 'Terminal Control Area' is, since they no longer exist. It might be helpful to note somewhere that a TCA is the equivalent of what is now called 'Class B' or 'Bravo' airspace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.171.168.138 (talk) 04:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Aeromexico 498 articles
I found these but they ask for paid subscriptions: WhisperToMe (talk) 10:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/58018645.html?dids=58018645:58018645&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+01%2C+1986&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&desc=Flight+498+Passenger%2C+Crew+List&pqatl=google
 * http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/58026296.html?dids=58026296:58026296&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+12%2C+1986&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&desc=8+More+Crash+Victims+Identified&pqatl=google
 * http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F5071FFB34550C718CDDA00894DE484D81
 * http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50711FB3D5A0C728CDDA00894DE484D81
 * http://docs.newsbank.com/g/GooglePM/MH/lib00246,0EB365AC0A88A6B6.html

Patricia Knight
Why does Patricia Knight redirect to this article? She isn't mentioned anywhere. The only notable Patricia Knight I'm aware of was a minor U.S. actress, the first wife of Cornel Wilde. -- JackofOz (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Cerritos Air Disaster Memorial Casualties.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Names of victims]]
 * I don't know if it is the same Patricia Knight, but there was a Patricia Knight on board the airplane. CerritosDisaster (talk) 02:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A little Googling reveals she's not the same Patricia Knight. The actress named Patricia Knight died 18 years later. See her IMDB page. CerritosDisaster (talk) 15:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Patricia Knight no longer redirect to this article. CerritosDisaster (talk) 16:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Location of crash site
CerritosDisaster (talk) 02:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

The Hermosillo
At the top right of the page, there is a photograph with the following caption: "A black-and-white photograph of the Hermosillo, missing its horizontal stabilizer as a result of the collision, plummeting into Cerritos". What does this mean? What does this have to do with the article's subject? What does "the Hermosillo" refer to? That term is not mentioned in the article at all (that I can see). This needs clarification. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:31, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

It was the name of the plane. That's why "Hermosillo" is indented and referred to as "the". — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouarelovedSOmuch (talk • contribs) 23:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There is no reliable citation I can find affirming this. Removing from the page until it can be sourced. Garchy (talk) 16:11, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

FAA culpability?
It doesn't say why the FAA were partly to blame. Did this refer to the ATC who was distracted by another plane in the wrong area, or to the regulations that needed tightening up? Valetude (talk) 15:37, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 7 August 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 10:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

1986 Cerritos mid-air collision → Aeroméxico Flight 498 – Almost every other article on a mid-air collision which involves a single commercial flight is named after that flight (PSA Flight 182, Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907, Hughes Airwest Flight 706, etc). At the moment, the article title is both inconsistent and goes against WP:COMMONNAME. LearyTheSquid (talk) 20:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Support – based on what I've seen of this suite of articles, it is generally based after the flight name. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:24, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination statement. RecycledPixels (talk) 16:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Location of memorial
Why is the location for the memorial not given in the article? I had to read a newspaper article to find out that it is not at or near the crash site. 2601:204:D502:5E30:B081:D51C:7F36:74D3 (talk) 08:09, 27 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The link in the article sculpture garden says it is in the city of Cierritos. MilborneOne (talk) 08:19, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Name
The name of this page is inaccurate. It is a mid-air collision, so it shouldn’t be named with only one name of the airplanes involved. I proposed to change the name to 1986 Cerritos Mid-Air Collision, and the entire first paragraph to be changed, and the same with all the articles that were cited on the 7 August 2019 discussion. It just isn’t right. Scre2010 (talk) 14:36, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


 * You will need to do a formal move request to gain a consensus. MilborneOne (talk) 14:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC)