Talk:Africa Movie Academy Awards

Adding information
Please do not add any unsourced information into this article. If you wish to contribute to wikipedia, please feel free to do so by following wikipedia Rules of Editing, which include, among others, the naming of third party verifiable reliable sources with citations. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to wikipedia. Any unsourced information will be deleted. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 16:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is page should not be used as a pet project for promoting the subject. Or reference removed just because they are not what one editor likes.I fail how to see how my additions are "unreliable" considering the kind of blogs and diy websites used as "good" references for everything else.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

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 * Welcome to Wikipedia. It might be a good idea to acquaint yourself with Wikipedia's Rules and Guidelines & WP:COI before editing Wikipedia articles. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 13:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Discontinued category
Darreg, how did you know the category Best film by an african based abroad has been dicontinued when it was last awarded in the most recent ceremony?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 17:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Good morning User talk:Jamie Tubers hope you had a great night. Read this article from the official AMAA site then search for the category. You'd find it there. Thanks for the clean-up on the article btw. http://www.ama-awards.com/news/amaa-honours-mandela-president-joyce-banda-endows-award-female-filmakers
 * Good morning User talk:Jamie Tubers hope you had a great night. Read this article from the official AMAA site then search for the category. You'd find it there. Thanks for the clean-up on the article btw. http://www.ama-awards.com/news/amaa-honours-mandela-president-joyce-banda-endows-award-female-filmakers

Darreg (talk) 07:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * hey, I have seen it, thanks. Have a great night.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 23:30, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I think Best picture should also be included in the discontinued category. It has been renamed to Best film, right?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 19:46, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


 * @Jamie tubers I wonder why I did not receive any notification when this reply was sent to me, Anyway the Idea I had for the retired categories are for categories that have been stopped completely and NOT just a renaming. I am of the opinion that there was only a name change involved in this case. when Wikipedia pages are created for all the categories then name changes should be mentioned in their individual pages. There are so many categories that has been renamed several times but still the same award, a very good example is category Best Nigerian film that is now known as Heart of Africa.


 * BTW I just noticed that on Wikipedia quality scale this article is rated Top Importance in both Film awards and African portal so I think all categories really needs to have an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darreg (talk • contribs) 08:57, 25 March 2014 (UTC) Darreg (talk) 09:03, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


 * , then better correct what you wrote here "Several categories have been renamed, retired, or merged. Below is a list of some of the discontinued categories". And Heart of Africa category was renamed to Best Nigerian film, not vice-versa lol. And yes, I think there should be pages for each category. If you think you can do it, carry go! :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 19:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I added the created categories to the template. This will aid in any future creations of anything award-related and updates. Nice job so far! —  Wylie pedia  06:44, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Danny Glover
How about creating a section for the structure of the award that includes Danny Glover as the head of the Advisory board of the AMAA? 1, 2, 3


 * I will leave this for your and Tubers to discuss. Spy Ghana is not a reliable source.  V e r s a c e 1 6 0 8   (Talk) 23:41, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't seem to understand the links provided. they seem to be talking about things related to the 10th AMAA. And is advisory board members something usually included on wikipedia? I'm asking this question 'cos; if so, we might as well just be listing the crew and what not in the article. Inshort, I'm just indifferent, cos I'm confused lol--Jamie Tubers (talk) 15:05, 19 April 2014 (UTC)


 * lol. I guess we should wait until things are clearer with proper citations. I just want more information about the administrative arm of the award on wikipedia. Darreg (talk) 20:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Award categories and years contents
There are a number of articles on this topic that have varying degrees of information on these awards. There should be an effort to better identify them so that there is as there are for the US Academy Awards on single line of searching instead of it being by the category for one year and the award presentation year for another etc. This is getting very confusing.66.74.176.59 (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * What are you saying?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:39, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Infobox image
Jamie Tubers, lets not edit war over what image that is going to be included in the infobox. To be clear, Gabriel Afolayan's AMA Award for playing Tavier Jabari in Hoodrush (2012) shouldn't be on the main page but rather should be moved into the empty infobox of the 8th Africa Movie Academy Awards, that's where that particular image is relevant. Several other people apart from Gabriel have won that same award, he did not design the award, he is not the biggest winner in the history of the awards, hence there's no good reason to add his award in the event's main page. We can find another award trophy to include there while we move Gabriel's to the 2012 page where it will properly serve the illustrating purpose it was uploaded for. Stanleytux (talk) 13:01, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I don't seem to get your point. The statuette image is to show what the AMA award looks like; that is the norm for every other major Award article on wikipedia. It is in cases where images of the award can't be found that posters or logos are used. The posters are better fitted for the year they are made for. The caption under the image is just a description of the winner of the award being displayed, what problems do you have with that? It is giving an appropriate information, and I don't seen where it indicates Gabriel as the biggest winner in the award's history. Also, Why should another award trophy of another winner be used instead of the current one? Is the present one not serving its purpose to the fullest?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 21:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The AMAA Statuette that Jamie Tubers uploaded is sufficient and serves its purpose. Credit should be given where credit is due and since Gabriel Afolayan released his image under a fair use rationale, it is only right that we include him in the caption. It would make sense to change the image if the AMAA website grants permission to use their statuette freely. Until then, the Gabriel Afolayan image should be kept in the article. The logo you uploaded can be kept in the body of the article.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 21:37, 19 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Tubers I agree with you that the Statuette is usually the image used on articles like this one, but going by the norm as you said, for main articles of award ceremonies such as Academy Awards and British Academy Film Awards the statuette image donot carry captions mentioning and linking a particular actor and his film where several others have received same award. If we will follow the norm then best we follow it the way it is. Stanleytux (talk) 21:49, 19 April 2016 (UTC)


 * They do not carry captions because the images belong to the said organizations, not to a specific person. In the case of the AMAA, the statuette belongs to Gabriel Afolayan since it was awarded to him by the academy.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 21:59, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The Statuette is titled AMAA Statuette. There's no evidence that this belongs to the said person. It was Tubers who uploaded the image and included a description claiming that it belonged to Gabriel. Same Statuette can be found on the Africa Film Academy website, and other websites. Stanleytux (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)


 * You've brought up a good point. Jamie Tubers will need to show proof of Gabriel Afolayan's rightful ownership of the statuette. Although a mention of Gabriel Afolayan in the caption is not mandatory, it is good to give credit where credit is due. If Gabriel Afolayan is the rightful owner of this statuette, then mentioning him in the caption parameter is fine.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 22:20, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Going through the file, the source of the image said the image is Own work ; The Statuette is owned by Africa Film Academy. This shows that this image does not belong to Gabriel but to the organization. The captions and descriptions trying to associate Gabriel with this image should be removed unless there are additional evidence that it belongs to Gabriel. Stanleytux (talk) 22:27, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If there is no evidence to establish Gabriel Afolayan as the rightful owner of this image, then the image itself should be deleted as failing WP:FUR. Let's wait for Jamie Tubers' reply.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 22:34, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The statuette construction was done by Africa Film Academy, hence they are the "source" of the statuette and they own the copyright. The award was won by Gabriel, hence the statuette in the picture is "Gabriel's AMA award". How is this a rocket science? The image in Academy Award, for example, is a generic statuette, published by the organization itself, so there's no need to state who won the award, since no one did! Don't drag this unnecessarily. Let's save our time. Thank you.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:37, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Gabriel didn't take the image. I took it sometime back (I think it was at the celebration party for the award or something like that), but I can't release it as a free image, since any image with the statuette is a derivative work and cannot be freely licensed.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:42, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely right about the Academy Awards example you outlined above. I'm not doubting you Jamie, but saying that you took the image isn't sufficient here. Since the image doesn't have Metadata information, you'll have to use another means to proof that you took this image.   Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 22:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, have you found a prove that indicates that I got it off someone's blog? I've uploaded lots of my own images to commons, other people have done so, as well. I or anyother person don't get to prove that they own every single image just for the sake of it. It's being quite long since i took the image, I doubt I still have it on my PC in fact.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 23:06, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Stanleytux mentioned that the same statuette can be found on the Africa Film Academy website and other websites. I don't think your response is valid enough. This particular image wasn't uploaded to Commons so I don't see why you had to mentioned Commons in your response. You will need to proof this since your claims of owning this particular image have been brought into question.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 23:16, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Let Stanleytux provide where he saw the image and let us compare the dates, for starters. I mentioned Commons, cos this would've been in commons along with my other images, if the clause of "fair use rationale" isn't there. I'm sure you're aware commons doesn't allow images which are not freely licenced.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 23:47, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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