Talk:African-American representation in Hollywood

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I think you would benefit from putting the actresses who were in the help and the whole academy awards that just passed under the neglect academy awards section. maybe you could have a sub section titled the help. You should also remove Zach's comment and the Lynch dudes comment from your page. pdebarro

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Topics
You've got some great topic ideas - now its time to narrow them down and focus. They are a little vague, and you will need to drill down your topic ideas. This is best accomplished through research, since you've got to back up all your information on Wikipedia. Our next class will be a visit with the subject librarian for help but check out scholar.google.com in the meantime. Debaser42 (talk) 19:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Some comments on your sandbox article
Hi Jcpasiec, great work on your sandbox article! I love the tone of your writing, its well suited for an encyclopedia article. One small thing though; Wikipedia relies on external sources for citations, and hence it would be improper to cite a reference to another page on Wikipedia. Reliable external sources are needed, and Google is a great tool to search for those ;) . Leave me a message on my talk page if you need any assistance! Thanks,  Lynch 7 14:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You might want to link words like Gone With the Wind, and Academy awards in your article. You can do this by enclosing the word you want to link in double square brackets  .  Lynch  7  14:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review
Hi! I read through your article, and I think what you have is a great start and a great idea for an article. I'm sure there are many people looking for information about African Americans in Hollywood. I like the section of "Old Hollywood" and I think you can find a lot more information about African Americans in the past. When you say what roles are generally offered, where did you find that information? I agree with you, but you might want to find a site that says the same. Also, I believe that "The Help" should be italicized or put in quotes, but I'm not sure. Other than that, your article looks good. I would include a subsection for "Hollywood Now" or something along those lines to counter what you said about how African Americans were represented in Hollywood in the past. I also fixed a few small grammatical/spelling errors. Hope some of this is helpful, see you in class! Jcidado (talk) 19:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Your article is definitely interesting, although I think you may end up running into trouble with the Wiki powers that be if you do not add any more citations. That being said, you may want to look into African American representation in DW Griffith's Birth of a Nation, the classic Clasablanca, Oscar Michaeux's films, and the race films of early American cinema. It would also be good to mention the iconic night in Oscar history when Halley Berry and Denzel Washington both won Oscars. I look forward to the changes you make and reading your article again (Channinged5 (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC))

Suggestion for sources
Here are some articles I found that you might find beneficial in adding to your article:

Race and the Safe Hollywood Bet

Black Characters in Search of Reality

Caricature Acting

Hollywood's Whiteout I hope those help you a little bit. Please let me know if you want me to edit your article further or look for more! (Channinged5 (talk) 12:01, 20 April 2012 (UTC))

Race-blind Roles
"At least three men have built their careers in roles where race was unimportant to the story: Denzel Washington’s detective in The Pelican Brief, Will Smith's alien fighter in Independence Day, and Samuel L Jackson's Jedi in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. "

I find this a bit contentious. Samuel Jackson didn't have a career before Phantom Menace? Will Smith's character's race in Fresh Prince wasn't part of the story? Denzel didn't get an Oscar nomination for his role as a black Union soldier in Glory? While they have all had roles where their race wasn't relevant to the story, I don't think you can say that they've built their careers on them, nor can you justify this conclusion by citing movies from after they were established and bankable Hollywood stars. Jackson in particular rebooted his career with Jules in Pulp Fiction, who to my eye is unmistakably African-American. NelC (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and removed the section entirely. It gives a single source far too much prominence in this article, and I find it odd the author of that source singles out those three actors in particular. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite

In the 1958 movie 'Run Silent, Run Deep,' Joel Fluellen plays a minor character (seaman Bragg) with no mention of race and not fitting any of he categories mentioned in the article. Kdammers (talk) 05:48, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

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Irene Cara
I don't think Irene Cara is black, and should probably not be listed on this page. Her own Wikipedia page lists her as half Cuban and half Puerto Rican. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.91.198 (talk • contribs) 17:58, June 19, 2019 (UTC)

Old vs. New
This article jumps from the 1930s to the 2010s pretty abruptly. The 60s-70s seems like an important era to cover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.91.198 (talk • contribs) 17:58, June 19, 2019 (UTC)

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Editing for organization
Hello fellow editors! I am a student editor, and I plan to go through this article for organization and overall edits. I will be working for the next couple of weeks, and I welcome any recommendations that you might have! Specifically, I see that the lead could be cleaned up and reworked a bit. I also want to add new sections for people who want to add new information in areas that don't seem to fit anywhere else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KDBrox (talk • contribs) 18:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * To add on to my previous comment, looking through the article, there is some Original Research that I intent to edit according to the policies on WP:NOR. KDBrox (talk) 16:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Re-organization of History Section
Hello fellow editors, In the history section of the article, there are two subsections, Old Hollywood and New Hollywood. I believe that these two subsections need to be at the very least defined and probably changed and added on to. Through some research, it appears that Old Hollywood encompasses the 1930s through the 1950s. New Hollywood encompasses the 1960s through 1970s. However, these are not widely accepted as the names for these eras. I propose the history section be subdivided into the following sections: The Pre-Hollywood Era (1878-1911) The Silent Age of Hollywood (1911-1927) Rise of the Talkies (1927-1933) The Golden Age of Hollywood (1930-1948) The Fall of the Studio System (1948-1965) New Hollywood (1965-1983) The Blockbuster Age of Hollywood (1975-Present) I found this list of eras hereand there is another site that has similar era names here.KDBrox (talk) 19:16, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

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