Talk:African lion

Redirecting African lion to Lion
What I am thinking of is editing that section on the lion's distribution and habitat into 2 sections, one for Eurasia, the other for Africa, and then redirecting African lion to the sub-section for Africa, that way, we can have a more valid link for African lion IMO, rather than African lion having to redirect to the whole article of Lion, since that article also talks about extant Asiatic lions and prehistoric cave lions. What do you think? Leo1pard (talk) 14:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I mean in a geographic way, not a taxonomic way. Leo1pard (talk) 16:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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Leo1pard (talk) 09:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Did you know?
Saber-toothed cats appear to have coexisted with the lion in the prehistoric times. One machairodontine species from Central Africa, which came before the lion, was Amphimachairodus kabir.

Leo1pard (talk) 13:36, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

No such thing as the African lion
The African lion is not a single population as stated in the opening sentence. In fact, there is no lion population that can be reasonably called an African lion. A case can be made for the African lion being all modern lions, including those that have recently spread into Asia, as opposed to older fossil lions and cave lions, but this is rarely done.

This article is about lions in Africa so why not use the title Lions in Africa, although it will be largely redundant with the lion article.  Jts1882 &#124; talk 16:12, 29 September 2018 (UTC)


 * The Cat Specialist Group doesn't agree with that. Note that even for the Asiatic lion, in another page, they said that though it was classified as Panthera leo persica, it now belongs to Panthera leo leo according to the new classification, meaning that this page isn't outdated. It talks about the African and Asiatic populations, besides recognising the subspecies. Leo1pard (talk) 12:34, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * is right, you're confusing geographic populations with subspecies now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:16, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not confused, I said that African lions are divided into different subspecies, and that one of these subspecies includes the Asiatic lion, that's what the Cat Specialist Group shows, amongst others.  Leo1pard (talk) 12:34, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * An article called African lion is different from one called African lions or Lions of Africa. The former implies a common name, which would have been appropriate when it was recognised as a subspecies, but is no longer. The latter refers to lions of the continent and could discuss the subspecies and populations. I think the idea of an article embracing all subspecies and populations is more suitable and could include your draft tables. I suggested Subspecies of lion elsewhere and someone else has suggested Taxonomy of lions. Neither are quite right, but the important point is to decide how distribute the information on lions into a few articles with clearly defined scope.  Jts1882 &#124; talk 13:20, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have modified it to make it clearer that African lions are divided into different clades and subspecies, but since the CSG used the singular form "African lion", I see no point in renaming it as "African lions", partly for the sake of simplicity in linking from other relevant pages to this article. Leo1pard (talk) 17:18, 2 October 2018 (UTC)