Talk:African wolf/Archive 1

Number of subspecies?
The articles states there are 7 subspecies, but only lists 6. Which is correct? --Jcardazzi (talk) 19:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)jcardazzi


 * MSW3 lists 13 subspecies: here, of those, 6 are African. Editor abcdef (talk) 00:09, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Relationship to the Himalayan wolf
Regarding the new subsection, what does this mean? It means that based on the specimens of the Himalayan wolf used in the study, mitochondrial DNA shows that the Himalayan wolf is as genetically remote from the Holarctic gray wolf as is the African golden wolf, and these both cluster closely together. Based on X-chromosome testing (its female lineage), for the question who was your taxon's mother the answer is the African golden wolf (or an extinct common ancestor of both). Based on y-chromosome testing (its male lineage) the answer is we don't know as there is no match found (i.e. male ancestor probably now extinct or lineage not yet detected) but it falls phylogenetally somewhere between a Holarctic gray wolf and the African golden jackal. The researchers are now going to compare the DNA of the entire genome of the Himalayan wolf to that of the African golden wolf to see if this helps to illuminate their obviously entwined history. Regards, William Harris •   (talk) •  05:16, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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Dissenting Opinion
Dissenting opinion: Gaubert stands by his original work, saying that although he finds the new study to be high-quality work, he isn't yet convinced that the African golden wolf is a new species. For instance, he says scientists have yet to tease apart some conflicting results in the DNA analyses. "There's still a lot of work to be done," he said.

In 2012, biologist Philippe Gaubert, of the University of Montpellier in France, published a paper showing that African golden jackals appeared to be a subspecies of gray wolf that's separate from the Eurasian jackal.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/07/150730-jackals-wolves-evolution-new-species-animals-africa --Jcardazzi (talk) 21:59, http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0042740

--Jcardazzi (talk) 19:39, 2 August 2015 (UTC)jcardazzi


 * The link also says: "Greger Larson, a bioarchaeologist at the University of Oxford in the U.K., is convinced by the new research. "They have phenomenal data and they do a nice series of analyses. It's a super airtight case," Larson said." If they can convince Larson, then they have convinced me. Regards, William Harris •   (talk) •  05:26, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * This issue is now settled, according to this reference. William Harris •   (talk) •  21:04, 16 November 2017 (UTC)