Talk:Afternoon of a Faun (Nijinsky)

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 13 February 2019 and 3 May 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Aggiegal19.

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English title
I moved this article to the English title as per Naming conventions (use English). Hyacinth 20:26, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * And I moved it to turn the original into a disambiguation page that points to the poem and the composition. David Sneek 08:05, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Cats
Afternoon of a Faun is a choreography, a ballet, and a piece of music, and could be categorized as all of those. One the one hand "ballet" means music and choreography, so those categorizations are unecessary. On the other, what is a choreography without its dance, ballet, or music? Are there articles about "choreographies"? Hyacinth 01:17, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

correction to title
The correct name of this work is "Prelude A L'apres-midi d'un Faune". Whatever happened to the "Prelude" bit? Debussy never intended this as a ballet. To him it was a concert piece.


 * User:Ogg, on wikipedia, per Naming conventions (use English), English titles are preferred.
 * The current article is about the "concert piece" and the ballet. Perhaps you are willing to create a seperate article for the piece? Hyacinth 20:55, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

help
the half step descent to the tritone and ascent of the flute.

could you please help me in translating this sentence in italian?i think it's important but i don't know anything about music theory so i need your help.

L'après-midi d'un faune

thanks --joana 22:22, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The choreography being "lost"
I think the statement in the article that the ballet was only performed for a few years and then was lost is wrong. For a start the Figaro criticism led to packed houses for the rest of its first season. The Ballets Russes continued to perform it. In 1940 they took it to Australia where a performance was captured on film. The faune was played by David Lichine who had studied with Nijinsky's sister Nijinska. This part of the article is very misleading and should be corrected... Since there appears to have been no activity on this page for two years, I will wait a week, then make the edit, with verifiable sources for each statement.Rivergod 11:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

What is going on?
I am surprised to find that there has been a move of some sort from Afternoon of a Faun (ballet) (AFB) to Afternoon of a Faun (Nijinsky) (AFN). Some questions:
 * Wasn't there considerable content at AFB? I seem to recall that there was; but the history comes up blank! Why is this? It looks as if most of the history has been deleted by an administrator. Did this happen? If so, why?
 * Where is the discussion that should precede any such action, and any such move? Where is the evidence that the appropriate tag for potentially controversial moves was applied, and discussion allowed for? (see Requested_moves).
 * Why has the talk from AFB been moved, and a redirect applied? This is highly irregular, and denies the opportunity for discussion of the article AFB, and of its status as a mere redirect. I shall now remove that redirect. Every article has its own talk page, even if the article is just a redirect.
 * An anonymous editor earlier removed content referring to other choreographies than Nijinsky's, saying in the edit summaries that the article was not about those choreographies, just Nijinsky's. If this is so, why is there not some "See also" mention of those others? If there is no article like AFB, where is it proposed that other choreographies of AF be treated in Wikipedia?

I'm posting these questions at the talk page of AFB and AFN. Please leave the talk page for AFN in place; and if you do want to put a redirect there, DISCUSS that action first. This is the correct procedure at Wikipedia.

–&thinsp; Noetica ♬♩&thinsp;Talk 03:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Afternoon of a Faun (ballet) moved to Afternoon of a Faun (Nijinsky)
Afternoon of a Faun (ballet) was moved to Afternoon of a Faun (Nijinsky) to make space for pages about other choreographers' settings of Debussy's Afternoon of a Faun. Robert Greer (talk) 15:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Planned Revisions
Hello, I have been assigned this article for my Technical Editing course, and I will be working on it heavily for the next two weeks (until about 17 March 2019). This is a summary of my editorial goals; I will probably start implementing organizational changes towards the end of next week and stylistic/copy-editing changes the week after. Here is a link to my sandbox where I will be conceptualizing my ideas: User:Aggiegal19/sandbox I am also posting this here in the hopes that it will incite discussion on editorial changes as this talk page has been pretty quiet. Thank you! Aggiegal19 (talk) 17:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Organization:
 * Break up Background section to separate into a “Development” section and break up the paragraphs into something like “Inspiration” “Conception” and “Difficulties” subsections.
 * Choreography section needs reorganizing: 1st two paragraphs are about stage and costume design (could be put into development section); also I'm considering moving the choreo section above the Performance & Reception section since the choreo is important to understand why the reaction was so split
 * A “Legacy/Influence” section could be very helpful to add space for criticism about the ballet throughout history as well as how it has affected modern dance today. The first part of the last sentence in the Lead says it’s one of the first modern ballets - if true, this is an extremely important point that isn’t really mentioned again in the article nor developed further.
 * Revision:
 * Reduce amount of block quotes throughout
 * Work on wording to switch tone from narrative essay to Wiki encyclopedic tone
 * See The Rite of Spring for a FA example of organization and tone to pull ideas from
 * Copy-editing
 * Update: I have implemented all the revisions I planned to, and this Wikiedu project is now over. However, something I saw last night but didn't have time to fix was the ref list. There are a few references cited numerous times which means they appear multiple times in the ref list. See: WP:REFNAME for how to cite the same source more than once without cluttering up the ref list. Remember though: if you are adding information and don't know how to implement the refname tag, it is better to have a duplicate source rather than no citation at all.
 * Also there is both a ref list and a bibliography for this article. I would recommend moving the citations under Bibliography to the References list to de-clutter the article and also, these sources are used in the References list and the ref listings need to be updated to reflect the extra information within the Bibliographic listings (basically, combine the two lists). Thank you! Aggiegal19 (talk) 02:17, 18 March 2019 (UTC)