Talk:Agathis australis

Article name
I have moved the article from Agathis australis to Kauri since Kauri is a unique name. Alan Liefting 08:58, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by unique name? Most types of trees are listed by their name and not their scientific name. Suppafly 01:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

"Kauri today

The world's remaining Kauri are predominantly found in the northern half of the North Island."

Redundant? This is their natural range after all. Dougalc 04:00, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * When I recently expanded the article, translating from the Spanish and reorganizing, I also looked at many other sources. While it is stated over and over that their range has decreased sharply, nothing I saw indicated one way or another that their decreased range is specific to North Island. Another words, It may be that the tree was always found only on the northern half of North Island and that range has decreased, that they used to be common all over North Island, or that they were common there as well as in other locations. Can you locate a source clarifying their original range before deforestation? --Fuhghettaboutit 12:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. It definitely only grew in the North half of North Island (north of ~38deg latitude), at least in the timeframe of human history.  Dougalc 01:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * From An encyclopaedia of New Zealand (1966)
 * "The true home of the New Zealand kauri extends from somewhat south of Auckland to the North Cape, though judging from the presence of pollen in bogs, it was present in the south of the South Island within recent geological times. Climatic change has driven it northwards."

Sections/Organization
I've recently added several sections to the article as well as changing and merging a few others. The article previously opened with material too specific in the lead which had never been placed in its own section. How should we best split up the remaining material? It has been moved down to 'description', though I find that word too general - the whole article is a description of kauri trees in one way or another. Perhaps opening with something like 'Morphology' and perhaps adding a section on taxonomy for completeness would be the best way to go? There is some material under 'Description' that doesn't really qualify as 'morphology', though I'm sure it could be merged somewhere else. Richard001 08:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Timber specs
Too technical? I don't know where else we could move this but I doubt many readers come here wondering what kauri's modulus of elasticity is, even if they are familiar with the term. Richard001 11:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know, as long as it's accurate it could be useful to someone. Besides the technical terms are linked in the specifications, so those of us who don't know what the terms need can easily look it up. Personally I'd say keep it, but it could be integrated into the rest of the article in a better way (eg. pointing out why the technical specs make kauri timber suitable for certain applications). Lisiate 21:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could put it in a small table to the right? I'm not familiar with coding such tables myself though. Richard001 00:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think we should as that table seems to be a template for the classification of species. It would be interesting to see who added it in the first place and ask for their comments. Lisiate 21:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, the technical stuff was added in April 2006 by User:Fuhghettaboutit. The edit was marked as an import from es (Spanish?) wikipedia. Lisiate 21:39, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Deforestation
A anonymous editor has added some lines on deforestation recently. It refers to "Adams 1990". There is no source Adams 1990. Does the editor mean "Adams 1980"? I can't check it. - Dick Bos (talk) 13:02, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Warawara
I was thinking of starting a Warawara page & moving the Warawara section out to it - most of it anyway? LawrieM (talk) 21:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Problem with comprehension.
What does this sentence mean? Despite this, like many native urban trees, it falls victim to "new owners" syndrome, so there are relatively few such trees in cities older than 40 years. I never heard of the new owners syndrome. I can guess the idea : it means when ownership is transfered people cut the native trees. I still don't get why it's worded in such an odd, obscure way. Can anyone good with English reword better? Correjon (talk) 04:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I took it out. It was confusing and unsourced and probably just someone's opinion. I doubt any study has been done on the ages of kauri trees growing in urban gardens. Kahuroa (talk) 09:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Commercial link removed
I removed a link to a website about ancient kauri from the Agathis page, thinking I would place it on this page. On closer look it was a commercial link so I won't place it anywhere. Kahuroa (talk) 20:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merge
I see has proposed merging the article for the genus Agathis into this article on the New Zealand species. I can't see why. Does anyone object to the merge tag being removed? --Avenue (talk) 10:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh, Sorry. First I thought that both are same. Now I understood both are different.

It seems like you have a interest in that article. May I know the meaning of Kauri one of the name of Agathis in Vernacular Language?--Tenkasi Subramanian (talk) 13:22, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Its common name in English (kauri) was borrowed directly from the Māori language around 200 years ago. I've now mentioned the English etymology in the lead sentence. I don't know the etymology of the word in Māori though. --Avenue (talk) 20:49, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Threatened
Kauri are now threatened  Nixinova   T   C   06:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)


 * @Nixinova Added NZTCS threat status  Draco phyllum  07:35, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Mean temperature requirement
"Kauri requires a mean temperature of 17 °C or more for most of the year"

Where did this come from? The source is not provided, but is assumed to be [16]. It cannot be correct since Northland mean temperature is <17C from May to November inclusive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.21.130.193 (talk) 04:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Role in determining geomagnetic reversal
Can information about the role of the 42,000-year-old A. australis tree found in New Zealand in determining the geomagnetic reversal that took place 42,000 years ago be added to this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 09:12, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * seems like that would be a reasonable add under the "swamp kauri" section. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 10:00, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Lead
Surely the "Overview" section should just be the lead?  Draco phyllum  07:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Did it because this is the only article I've ever seen with an "Overview" section and the lead is supposed to be the overview!  Draco phyllum  09:50, 27 May 2021 (UTC)