Talk:Agilbert

Duplicate
This is a duplicate of Agilbertus seemingly. Angus McLellan (Talk) 08:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Angus, you are right. It's a good idea to merge the two. Given that this is a more extensive article you may consider changing Agilbertus in a Redirect-page? johanthon 16:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Naam
The article sais: "His name, the Frankish language equivalent of Æthelberht has been taken to suggest a link with the royal family of the Kingdom of Kent".

I have placed the Fact tag, for I think that Agil refers to Achilles, while Aethel translates as Adel (noble). I may be wrong, but I am quite sure that English th usually changes into a d (or less usual a t) when translating to Old Dutch, the descendand of Frankish. Compare Thunder and Donder, Thread and Draad, Three and Drie. johanthon 17:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The Agilbert/Æthelberht thing comes from Fouracre's article in the Blackwell Encyclopedia. I'll add footnotes next week. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Good. Thanks. johanthon 20:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Added now. I don't know whether banishing Le Jan's contrary view - that Agilbert's name demonstrates a link to the Agilolfings (as do the names of his cousin Agilberta and possible kinsman Agilbert, refendarius of Theuderic III) - is giving undue weight to Fouracre. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The only link between agilbert/aethelberht is that both are potential origins for Albert/Elbert - unless it is established that there was a common latin for used for both - meaning that, historically, the same text refers to the same person whichever name is used 21:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)24.77.37.31 (talk)

Image of Agilbert's sarcophagus?
I had a look on Google for a free-licensed picture of Agilbert's sarcophagus, but came up with nothing. Likewise on Gallica. If anyone is aware of an old drawing or appropriately licensed photo, it would be useful to add it here. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)