Talk:Agility PR Solutions

Requested move 21 December 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: NOT MOVED. KSF T C 04:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

MediaMiser → Agility PR Solutions – MediaMiser has rebranded as Agility PR Solutions on 12/1/2016. These are the online news articles from third party websites to substantiate the rebranding/renaming: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161202005065/en/Innodata-Announces-Rebrand-Media-Intelligence-Solutions-Segment http://sports.yahoo.com/news/innodata-announces-rebrand-media-intelligence-133000336.html http://www.benchmarkmonitor.com/2016/12/07/innodata-inc-nasdaqinod-rebranded-the-products-of-its-media-intelligence-solutions/ Singerfc (talk) 19:07, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Premature at best and may never be justified. Yet another proposal based purely on a recent change of official name. How many more places do we need to post a polite request to look at the Article title policy before requesting a move? Andrewa (talk) 23:28, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
I note that the proposer is a recently created single topic account with no user page or user talk page. I'll post a welcome and ask politely about COI. Andrewa (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


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COI, page name etc
COI is disclosed. See User talk:Singerfc.

I've suggested there that as soon as they can provide reliable secondary sources that demonstrate that the new name has become the common name (rather than ones that just report the renaming) a new move request would be in order.

There is the usual corporate hype that Wikipedia should reflect reality in terms of our company page. Of course the reality we want to reflect is from reliable secondary sources, and their website is a primary source. We'll soon see whether they get the message. Andrewa (talk) 09:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Andrewa - any updates? We provided links which you confirmed were good on January 13th, since then we have not heard anything, despite me following up on the 18th January. Please let us know when this will be actioned, or if more work is required on our part. Thanks. Singerfc (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi User:Singerfc, yes I should have responded more fully before this and apologise for the delay.


 * As I said before, http://www.prweek.com/article/1418249/business-wire-agility-pr-solutions-team is exactly what we're after. PRWeek looks a good secondary source.


 * Looking closer at the other link you provided, it doesn't really add anything, as it appears to be the same material... I'd guess that both are just restating the same press release from your company. One such article is fine IMO.


 * It's still a good start, it might even be enough. If we had two more independent sources, plus a search showing that the old name isn't being used recently, I'd be happy to initiate a new RM, or you could (there are advantage both ways). Andrewa (talk) 19:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Have a look at Talk:Global Telecom & Technology to see how slowly some corporate renames take hold... it's two years since that official rename, and the old name is still used in about a quarter of the media coverage, but we're (hopefully) about to finally move the article. Andrewa (talk) 15:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * And we did! Andrewa (talk) 00:29, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello again Andrewa Here is another article which mentions Agility PR Solutions (not in the context of being renamed, but the link does come through to the website which states the rename): http://business.dailytimesleader.com/dailytimesleader/news/read?GUID=33675987&tc=eml

I have no idea if Twitter is any use in this scenario, but https://twitter.com/mediamiser?lang=en has all the renaming, links etc.

Are you saying there's a chance we should prepare for a process that could take two years? Singerfc (talk) 20:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hopefully not, and I'm not expecting it to, assuming that your corporate image people are even moderately successful. But it is possible for it to take two years. It's even possible that it will never happen.


 * Thanks for those links, other things have been keeping me busy of late, but you are still on my list. Andrewa (talk) 21:53, 6 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I was getting all excitedd but I don't think they really help... What is Bulldog Reporter? It looks like an activity of your company.


 * I'm trying to find sources but your marketing has been too good... it's really hard to find independent sources that are talking about you. I get 24000 ghits for "Agility Solutions" but the first few pages are all either your company websites or announcements, or extraneous hits where the phrase is used but it doesn't refer to you. I'll keep trying! Andrewa (talk) 10:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Towards a new RM
Every now and again I take a break and look for sources that might support a new RM, and frankly I'm having a great deal of trouble. Possible looking in the wrong places.

We have one good hit, the PRWeek one above. There must be others by now (and if not, does the company even satisfy the GNG?).

Their subsidiary Bulldog Reporter seemed newsworthy... but a search on its name and the new company name turned up nothing of interest.

Ideas welcome. Andrewa (talk) 07:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)