Talk:Agneepath (2012 film)

Critical Review
I added table for critical review section. Table was with 4 columns: Source, Reviewer name, Rating & Comments. It is easier for anyone read details in table. Someone changed it, surprising the user is not even registered user. My effort has gone in vain now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strong finance (talk • contribs) 12:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello! The standard critical reception is not in tables, but is in the written form. Tables are usually used in compiling forms of data. Please understand that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.92.93.92 (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Why is no one talking about the systematic and deliberate side-stepping of the fact that this supposed "good article" has no explanation/commentary on the poem which is the most vital aspect of the movie? There is even this one user who deletes every source provided and refuses to come up with a good source of his own. 117.192.24.71 (talk) 16:49, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, let me get this straight. Firstly, I do not "refuse to come up with a good source of my own". With a good article in Wikipedia, we need to maintain the quality by providing sources that meet the reliable source criteria. If there is a high-quality reliable source that mentions the "poem" in its entirety, I would be very glad to include it. Secondly, you (a sock) have been repeatedly mentioning a random blog as a source for this poem; despite repeated reverts and requests. This article has been semi-protected twice for this very reason. I beg you to not indulge in an edit war again. Peace. --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 17:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Gross/Net Box Office Revenues
I'm not an expert on Indian cinema revenues by any means, but the gross revenues reported at don't seem to agree to the current figures on this page. Also, the page says "nett" (typo: should be "net"), but the source appears to refer to gross. We should reach concensus on the correct figures to report before any further edits are made to the page. I've seen several edits to this (and reversions) on RC. I'm hoping there's an expert out there that can sort this out! -- a  kendall  10:41, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The figures used in the page are Net, not gross. Ra.One made 23+ approx net from it's hindi version alone in a single day. 2+ if you count the Tamil/Telugu/German/etc. versions of the film. We usually put WORLDWIDE GROSS (not net and before tax) in the infobox. Hopefully we'll have an official number soon. Asher Madan 09:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm updating the box office figures and will keep them in check. Thanks for the headsup! Asher Madan 09:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashermadan (talk • contribs)

Please update the correct revenue that is showing in http://www.boxofficeindia.com the most authentic source for indian box office collection for worldwide collection you can use other source. The revenue after 2nd week alone in indian box office is 114 crore as reported on http://www.boxofficeindia.com site. Don't Report wrong collection here. for worlwide collection it is already 145 +. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.203.203.252 (talk) 17:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

GA comments
I just saw that the article is GAN, hence I wish to list out a small bit of concerns which I have. Here is my quick take :

Secret of success ( talk )  17:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * "Johar pays tribute to his father, Yash Johar, the producer of the original, through the film.[2]" - WP:UNDUE in the lead.
 * "Though publicized as a remake, the film borrows only the basic plot of the original, while making the characters and incidents completely different." - Sounds like OR. A source? [comment: source provided]
 * "large appreciation from critics" - large is subjective.
 * "island village of Mandwa" - Consider linking "island village" as it is a rare term.
 * "Johar commented that the casting was decided by Malhotra while adding, "Karan Malhotra has his own ideas on how to present the character. I think the protagonist in the new Agneepath would be very different from how he was in the original"." - Seems unnecessary. Does not add anything significant.
 * "he was perfect for the role." - it should be "considered "perfect"".
 * "several actresses including Genelia D'Souza, Priyanka Chopra and Kareena Kapoor were being considered for the role" - Kareena is not mentioned in the source.
 * "Additionally, few lucky winners" - 'lucky' is POV
 * I'm not sure if the detailed lyrics of the poem can be used. It would be protected by copyright. Please get it verified in Media copyright questions.
 * "The film's posters subsequently featured disclaimers reading, "This film is certified U/A. We advise parental guidance due to violence in the film."" - Uh, is that really necessary? Sign of undue weight.
 * "fared marginally lower than another Hrithik Roshan-starrer, Dhoom 2 (2006)." - What is the purpose of this? Several other Hrithik films have done good business overseas.
 * Questionable reliability : 66, 77, 78 (Flipkart and that blog)


 * Thanks for taking an interest in the article, and thank you for pointing out several issues that I will now change.

Some things I would like to add to your comments: Smarojit (talk) 04:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the fact that the film is made as a tribute to his father, Yash Johar is an important factor and should stay in the lead. The main driving force behind the remake was the commercial failure of the original, as stated by Karan Johar.
 * The disclaimer, "This film is certified U/A. We advise parental guidance due to violence in the film." was a first of its kind for any Indian film and is thus important to include. Later, several other films such as London, Paris, New York and Vicky Donor put up similar disclaimers.
 * The flipkart sources have been used to mention the prices of the DVD and BluRay.
 * As for the poem and translation, it would be great if you could help me out with it. I am uncertain how I would be able to use it.
 * The Poem and the translation are a critical part of this article and it cannot be complete without it. Whoever decides to delete the inclusion of the translation must take the responsibility to provide alternate 'reliable' sources and refrain from deleting the poem until that can be done. The poem is a more enduring aspect of the movie thna anything else and it deserves better attention. I am willing to take a stand on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salem990 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I do not have any problem with the lead as of now, but regarding the U/A certificate, could you give a source for that? How exactly was it different from the past U/A disclaimers? Moving on, why is flipkart a reliable source, be it for budget or anything else? I see that the lyrics have been removed. Guess no more problems with that. Secret of success ( talk )  15:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There, I have added another source which states that Agneepath was the first Indian film to have such a disclaimer.
 * Regarding the price of the DVD and BluRay, would eBay be a better source than, if Flipkart isn't? Smarojit (talk) 04:50, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess eBay would indeed be better source than flipkart, due to its reputation. Oh, and if you address any of the above points, please strike it. Regards, Secret of success  ( talk )  10:51, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There, I have replaced the flipkart source with eBay. Better now?
 * I still find it unnecessary to state the "tribute" part in the lead. Basically, it means that he was paying his respects to his father as the film had failed in the 1990's. But actually, as this one is quite different from the original one, it holds no grounds of comparison, right? Secret of success  ( talk )  16:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that there is no ground for comparison. But then again, Karan Johar has time and again stated in the media that the "main" reason to make this film was to pay a tribute to his father. I think that needs to be incorporated in the lead - The reason for making the film in the first place. What do you think? Smarojit (talk) 16:27, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, all right. Secret of success  ( talk )  13:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Boxoffice
The boxoffice section needs a little change as some movies released and grossed more than agneepath comparatively. ---zeeyanketu talk to me 07:23, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 January 2013
Can someone please edit the awards section of this page? It looks like it has only added the negative awards, which does not make sense. Otherwise, I think it should be removed.

Aobero4 (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There had been discussions whether to include negative awards or not. The conclusion was also to include negative awards as well along with other awards. See this for the discussion and also conclusion.
 * I added positive awards too. Just needed some time. Now there shouldn't be any objection about negative awards because positives are there too, even though there are only like 7 wins are like 50 nominations. Ashermadan (talk) 00:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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