Talk:Agnez Mo

Origin
Isn't Agnes a Chinese Indonesian person? even though she was born in Indonesia, but.. is it true that her mother is a chinese? or her father maybe? Zeus din (talk) 10:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * So what? She has never made it a big deal. She's Indonesian citizen, born and live in Jakarta, and has Indonesian as her mother/native language. She can't speak Chinese, so she took Mandarin course. So what's the problem? Bluesatellite (talk) 00:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Most of (Chinese) Indonesian people cannot speak Mandarin well even not at all mainly for who are more than 3rd generation. When the first ancestors came to Indonesia all of them are male who assimilated with the Native and many of their children and grand children marriage also with the Native, so although they have Chinese name might be in their blood is mostly Native. It is so difficult to know how many percent a person is Chinese or Native, except DNA test. So, all of us are Indonesian.Gsarwa (talk) 07:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have heard on the news that Agnes is of Chinese ancestry, and people of partial Chinese ancestry living outside the Greater China Area may also consider themselves Overseas Chinese. Hence, it is right to state that Agnes is a Chinese Indonesian. But of course, a cite is needed for every statement mentioned in Wikipedia. Awriterwrites (talk) 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I have seen this article is edited and re-edited because of this issue and I think I need to address this. For those who want to remove this information from the article: This is a biography and has to mention every aspect of the person being discussed. Like it or not, Agnes Monica is an Indonesian and ALSO a Chinese descent. Stating that she is a Chinese descent doesn't make her less Indonesian. Unless this information is incorrect, it shouldn't be removed. Awriterwrites (talk) 04:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

D#7?
More like D#6. 04:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yaa..that's a D#6 I think, don't be exaggerated I bet she can't even hit D#7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.152.102 (talk) 09:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Since there is no citation for this, I removed the statement.Awriterwrites (talk) 13:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Violation use of copyrighted images
All the pictures used before were suddenly gone due to copyright violation. I have uploaded new pictures with the consent from the copyright owner. Awriterwrites (talk) 14:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

The picture is a good adition to the article. Meatsgains (talk) 02:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Prose issues

 * I was just looking at the lead, and noticed this sentence: "Following her rising popularity after starring in few series of soap operas, she became the highest-paid teenage artist." Was she the highest-paid teenage artist in the world? In Asia? In Indonesia? I was going to tag it with a where tag, but I find those tags so obnoxious so I figured I'd ask here. Oh well, getting prose cleaned up to GA standards is hard for native speakers sometimes--so don't get discouraged. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:57, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In Indonesia (says so a little further down). Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, I just saw this: "Consequently, her slogan "Dream, Believe, and Make it Happen" was used as the campaign for the US Embassy's 2011 cultural conference to inspire young people." I assume it was the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta? You might want to specify though. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:05, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, US Embassy in Jakarta (reference is to that embassy). Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed that throughout the article she is referred to as "Agnes". Generally in Wikipedia articles subjects are referred to by their family name throughout the article, see Britney Spears for instance. Do Indonesia names put the family name first? Mark Arsten (talk) 03:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not all Indonesians have a family name as understood in a western context. Judging from a couple The Jakarta Post articles (like this one, this one, and this one she should be referred to as Agnes. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I was not aware of that. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:55, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Agnes Monica has a family name, "Muljoto" (from her father's name, Ricky Muljoto). However, she is only known as Agnes Monica in Indonesia. It can also be considered as her stage name.Awriterwrites (talk) 11:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Per 'The Jakarta Post articles, I think we should stick with Agnes. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)


 * "Both of her parents were former Indonesian athletes." More detail might be nice here, which sport? Were they on the National team? Mark Arsten (talk) 03:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've requested the same at the nomination page. Thanks for taking a look at this. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Is Pernikahan Dini an ongoing TV series or one film? It's a little unclear to me. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:40, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Soap opera. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:21, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * CMIIW. "University of" is always followed by a region/place name. For example: University of Washington. If my understanding is correct, "Universitas Pelita Harapan" shouldn't be translated as "University of Pelita Harapan". "Pelita Harapan" is not a region name. It should be translated as "Pelita Harapan University" or referred as original, "Universitas Pelita Harapan", as in their official website Awriterwrites (talk) 11:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good idea. Go with Pelita Harapan University. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Copy-edit by the Guild of Copy Editors
I've started on this and will post question/comments here as I come across them. ❇  Zoë Alkaia   ❇  01:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC) I think that's all I've got. ❇  Zoë Alkaia   ❇  04:21, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The lede and the body note that she was appointed ambassador for two anti-trafficking organizations, but there is no information as to why she was chosen.
 * What does Si Meong mean?
 * This source is used four times. It's about her wanting to become a screen writer, but that's no mentioned of that in the article, at least not that I see. I think this source has been mistakenly used in place of another, so I'm correcting that. The information from this source should probably be included, though.
 * Has a separate section for "Early life" been considered? It would include all of her non-career milestones, such as the schools she attended, allowing the career section to focus solely on her career.
 * The YouTube video for ""Matahariku" was used as a reference for the claim "...the most-watched music video starring a female Indonesian on YouTube". First problem, we don't use YouTube videos unless they're officially posted by the copyright holder. As it is, this was a copyright violation. Problem two, it isn't a source for that claim. That video may very well have more views than any other female Indonesian artist, but it's synthesis to draw that conclusion when it isn't explicitly stated. The link has been removed and the claim hidden.
 * Also, the sentence "She also guest starred in the finale of Asian Idol on 16 December 2007, and performed the song "Get Up"." used a copyright vio YouTube link for a reference. This sentence needs a reliable source.
 * This source talks about piracy issues and her negative reaction to them. This seems like very relevant information that should be included. Unfortunately, the translation is very poor, so I'm not comfortable attempting to write the information myself. If someone can get the details down in English, I can copy-edit that.
 * For "earning her the "Million Awards" award from Indonesian KFC", is this a reference to Kentucky Fried Chicken? Because that's where the link goes and what American readers will automatically have come to mind! I'm assuming it's probably something else.
 * I think it would be good to add the years in the "Presenter" section.
 * Is there no information on her personal life as far as relationships?
 * It seems awriterwrites has been busy since this passed GA three weeks ago, as I don't remember any youtube links in the version I reviewed. KFC in the source does refer to the "finger lickin' good" chain, which has been in Indonesia for more than 20 years and is known for sponsoring singers like Ahmad Dhani. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:08, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As for Si Meong, it literally means "The Cat". I suggested that awriterwrites include translations of album titles like I did at Gita Gutawa, but... Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my late reply. I haven't checked this article for ages :)
 * 1. I can't find any source stating why she was chosen, but I think it was because she is one of the biggest stars in Indonesia.
 * 2. Si Meong is The Cat. I didn't add it because I think it isn't necessary. You are free to add, if you want :)
 * 3. I can't find this sourceeven in the old revision (before copy edit). Anyway, it shouldn't be used.
 * 4. I would like to expand the "Early Life" section, however I don't have any more information to expand that. Any suggestion?
 * 5. I agree with you that we shouldn't draw a conclusion from the number of views on YouTube :)
 * 6. Do you mean: I can't use YouTube video to prove that she performs at Asian Idol?
 * 7. Ok, I'll include about the piracy issue in the article. I'll let you know when I'm done with it.
 * 8. Yes, it is KFC, the Kentucky Fried Chicken :D
 * 9. I'll think how I can come up with the "Presenter" section.
 * 10. She is known for not disclosing any information about her personal relationship. There are many gossips about her personal relationships but many of them are not true, and she never bothers to clarify them. It is a challenging topic to write, but I'll see what I can find.
 * Awriterwrites (talk) 14:00, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Critics & Respons
A few information she had quarrelled with Stacy Malaysian singer around 2010. Malaysian marked her as Arrogant celebrity from Indonesian. http://www.mygosip.com/stacy-dikasari-oleh-agnes-monica-semasa-sessi-fotografi/

Agnes is called by some community as Queen of Hoax. She often created news about her with international career with never happen with any collaboration with famous artist. http://showbiz.liputan6.com/read/576481/diane-warren-pilihkan-lagu-buat-agnes-monica http://www.kapanlagi.com/showbiz/selebriti/agnes-monica-belajar-bahasa-jepang-demi-proyek-albumnya-lgezcwn.html She often lies about collaboration with famous artist. http://www.kapanlagi.com/foto/berita-foto/indonesia/boyz-ii-men---agnes-monica.html

Agnes as celebrity with wrong costume. she often does that. http://www.tempo.co/read/news/2014/01/07/219542773/Satu-Lagi-Penampilan-Saltum-Agnes-Monica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXyQjc0nCuY http://lifestyle.okezone.com/read/2013/02/21/29/765597/penampilan-agnes-monica-di-grammy-dianggap-norak http://showbiz.liputan6.com/read/763906/pakai-kutang-hitam-agnes-monica-taklukan-panggung-jepang

Fans of agnes of NIC often bully celebrities, who had critics agnes. Some fans give comments or advices. She and her fans marked them as Haters. http://www.pebriandika.com/2013/02/daftar-selebriti-yang-menyindir-agnes.html http://showbiz.liputan6.com/read/537895/bahas-go-international-anggun-sindir-agnes-monica

Queen of copycat. Everybody knows her talent, which is copycat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5kKiDz_KgA http://www.thetoptens.com/worst-singers-asia/agnes-monica-448278.asp http://www.firstpost.com/topic/person/agnes-monica-agnes-monica-copies-everything-from-beyonce-part-2-agnes-i-video-g5kKiDz_KgA-47900-6.html

She hates her country so much. She called her country. Country of Thief. http://flights.indonesiamatters.com/8863-airport-baggage-security/

Sorry most of news in Indonesian language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.195.61.70 (talk) 07:11, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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Music genre agnez mo
I think the musical genre of agnez mo not just pop it, now it's more dominant rnb music. not in the previous music genre has been written RnB, pop, pop dance, why changed only pop genre? please re-correct, Thank you Vinohadid (talk) 23:09, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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Cewekku Jutek deletion
I heard that the TV show Cewekku Jutek was completely deleted because of copyright, apparently a Korean TV show was threatening to sue prima entertainment as Cewekku Jutek was a copy of the series in Korea. If anyone can verify it would be great. Australianblackbelt (talk) 00:06, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

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