Talk:Agora (web browser)

Which platform(s)?
✅ And since there is no external link, 'can't find out. --Jerome Potts 23:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Relevant summary
✅ Copied over from Talk:Arena (web browser)

There are some relevant summaries at Everything2 by WWWWolf at Agora, and Arena. The user has placed his writings under GDFL for use in Wikipedia...though I'm not quite sure how to attribute them.Smallman12q (talk) 18:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Links
Here are some relevant links: [snip] I'll be off this weekend and tmrw...but next week I'll help you out a bit more. I've also added several screenshots to Arena (web browser) from Dave Raggett ^.^. Also, if you plan to nominate for DYK, there's a 5-day expansion limit, so you have to nominate either today or tomorrow at latest. Google books has a lot of good sources. Cheers!Smallman12q (talk) 00:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't expected so much links o.O Of course I will check them. Normally I don't have any time since soccer/football is in south africa ^^ Were you mailing Dave or where did you get Arena version 1.0a? really confusing me at the moment as long as you didn't give any source (at the moment)! I want the build ^^ mabdul 01:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ye, I emailed Dave and he responded ^.^ with 6 screenshots from 1994 which I've uploaded. As for Agora, there are quite a few books at google books that mention it. Simply search Agora browser at google books and set the custom date range to 1993-1999. I won't be on again till monday...cheers Smallman12q (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

to do!
times of verbs: was/is and so, cleanup the refs, well formated/design (?)
 * http://www.w3.org/History/1993/WWW/Conditions/CERNFreeofCharge.html -Cern (C) statement
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=pIH-JijUNS0C&pg=PA249
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=4BSBUSEEtwAC&pg=PA145
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=RSmWqxtrIukC&dq=Agora+browser&q=Agora#search_anchor has a short entry on Agora on p676

done

 * http://www.w3.org/History/1996/WWW/Agora/Help.html
 * http://soft.vub.ac.be/research/agora/ (programming language unrelated ^.^)
 * http://www.dna.affrc.go.jp/misc/Agora/Help.txt
 * http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Agora_-_Retrieving_WWW_Documents_through_mail
 * http://sunhe.jinr.ru/docs/w3c/MailRobot/send.html (nothing to do, is the same page as official)
 * http://www.landmark.org/mailecho.html (maybe that the service was widely used --> also the limitation of request to prevent?)
 * http://scout.wisc.edu/Projects/PastProjects/NH/95-11/95-11-21/0026.html -offline permnantly
 * http://web.archive.org/web/20060911153945/http://lanic.utexas.edu/info/agora/

not to know how to implement
by mabdul: mabdul 08:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.isoc.org/inet97/proceedings/A1/A1_1.HTM
 * http://algo.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/bibliothek/proceedings/webnet97.pdf really don't know. this document says that agora is based on java and I'm really not sure at the rest of content if the author is discussing the "agora web browser" or if he is using another application...

E-mail w/ Arthur Secret
I've gotten a reply from Arthur Secret ^.^ Hello,

Thank you for your interest in Agora!

I had a quick look at the wikipedia article, there seems to be some confusion in it between my project and another project from Bert.

Anyway, I authored the Agora web browser in 1994, as lots of people could not afford a permanent connection to the internet at that time, and thus had only email available. "Agora was an email-based web browser designed for non-graphic terminals and to help people without full access to the internet such as in developing countries", as mentioned in the wikipedia page (although one could actually also request the source code of the page through Agora and display it on her/his computer using graphical web browsers off-line).

> What did you mean by "Agora, for those who cannot be in the Arena". > Did you mean the browser arena?

Yes, the idea was that people with a permanent connection to the internet could use the Arena browser and benefit from the latest CSS/HTML developments, but those with only email access could still access the web nevertheless.

> Also, if possible, why was the name Agora chosen for the project.

When I heard about the Arena browser, I thought it was a good idea to name my project as well, and wanted to find a word that would be of a similar (ie Greek) origin for consistency. As I was working on a browser for people with only email access, compared to the Arena browser which was designed for people with full/permanent connections to the internet, I wanted to find a word that would also hint at the differences between the two. At that time I discussed the matter with my grandmother who suggested the name Agora.

Cheers,

Arthur

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Small Man wrote: > Hello, > I'm expanding the Agora article at Wikipedia at > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agora_%28web_browser%29 > > and I have a few questions. > > What did you mean by "Agora, for those who cannot be in the Arena". > Did you mean the browser arena? > > Also, if possible, why was the name Agora chosen for the project. > > Thanks for any reply > -Smallman > >

Hope this helps you Mabdul.I don't have time to integrate it atm.Smallman12q (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * WOW! really great work. Never thought of writing a mail to arthur and dave. this helps really a lot. will check the article again and starting to create a second for argo. hope this will working. will try to install/start line mode, agora, (argo if I can find any sources) and others to create screenshots and to get a better feeling for the topic. Thanks again for the resources. Can you help me to explain why the criticism section in amaya (at it was in the last edit) should be integrated again? mabdul 20:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * some results in the OTRS question? mabdul 08:10, 5 July 2010 (UTC)