Talk:AgustaWestland AW139

AB139
Does anyone have a definitive source with the reason for Bell's withdrawal from the AB139 partnership? --BillCJ 16:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I did some searching on the web, and found out that the primary given reason was Bell's dissatisfaction with Augusta's marketing of the AB139. I don't know what exactly that entailed. I also found that at the recent unveiling of the Bell 417, Bell announced it was studying a new medium twin. I guess they are ready to try again, seeing that the Bell 214ST wasn't a great success, and the 139 partnership didn't last. - BillCJ 05:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

AW149
What has the following go to do with the AW139? And why is it in the first paragraph anyway?


 * The AgustaWestland AW149 is a medium-lift military helicopter being developed by AgustaWestland as an enlarged version of the AW139.

Lin 09:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It is in the first paragraph because it is an important variant of the AW139 that needs to be mentioned because it is new but only a project it does not have an article. AgustaWestland AW149 re-directs to here until it has an article of its own and the statement gives readers a warm feeling they are in the right article. MilborneOne 11:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Concur with Milb1. Last August, an article was created on the AW149, but by November is was still just a one or two sentence stub. In Nov 2006, I converted that page to a redirect, and added the mentions here, as little info had been released by AW on the AW149. Almost a year later, there is still not much info on the variant, and it's a distinct (tho slim) possibility it may never be produced. As the AW149 is to be a bit larger than the AW139, and optimized for a military role, I do believe it best at some point in the future to have the AW149 on its own page. When more information is forthcoming, along with sgnificant orders and the start to production, we can split off the AW149 info back to the redirect page. - BillCJ 17:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Specifications problem
The specifications are currently sourced to the EASA Type Certicate Data Sheet - which is present as an external link that turns out to be broken - on searching EASA's website, I managed to find the certificate, at http://easa.europa.eu/certification/type-certificates/docs/rotorcraft/EASA-TCDS-R.006_Agusta_AB139_and_AW139-15-23012012.pdf but on checking much of the info in the specifications cannot be found in the Data sheet. Items of data that are not present in the Data sheet are:
 * 1: Empty weight
 * 2: Engine power (although powers are mentioned under "transmission torque limits")
 * 3: Maximum speed - what is listed is VNE - not the same thing at all
 * 4: Range
 * 5: Rate of climb

Nigel Ish (talk) 18:28, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Notability of operators
I had this revision https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AgustaWestland_AW139&oldid=606127552 reverted by Fox52 as it was apparently not notable that there was a new operator. As far as I can see there's no guideline surrounding this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#Notability_guidelines_do_not_apply_to_content_within_an_article Jim09 (talk) 05:17, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:AIRCRAFT-OPERATORS as per the guidelines distant order(s) are kept out due to unforeseen changes in the contract. - FOX 52 (talk) 06:32, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Fox 52 did the same thing to me, where I had listed a current active operator! Stuart midgley (talk) 11:50, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * We dont and cant list every operator, the 770 helicopters built only the operators with large numbers are notable, we cant list operators with single numbers of helicopters. The only exception has been military operators who have been deemed to be notable in past discussions. MilborneOne (talk) 12:39, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * For the consensus guidance on this please see WP:AIRCRAFT-OPERATORS. - Ahunt (talk) 13:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I hardly think one of the world's larger individual ambulance services, previously operating 5 of the machines and currently replacing those with 8 new-build airframes, counts as 'non-notable'. And if that is the case, whya re there a number of other small-number aero-medical users listed? Queensland is acceptable but New South Wales is not??? Stuart midgley (talk) 10:09, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2017
In the Operators section please add Colombia. Helistar SAS is operating three AW139, two from 2015 and one more from 2016. Manriman (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Ahunt (talk) 00:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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Yemi Osinbajo AW139 accident
The accident, listed in the article, involved the Nigerian VP, Yemi Osinbajo, but no casualties and it was a simple weather-related accident, so does not meet WP:AIRCRASH for inclusion here. Basically it was a non-event. Any reason to keep it? - Ahunt (talk) 15:29, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


 * No it is not really that noteworthy. MilborneOne (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)