Talk:Ahimsa in Jainism/Archive 1

Clean-up
68.162.185.211 (talk) 22:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC) This article has a lot of typos; a lot of grammar mistakes. when that's the case who knows what else is wrong.

i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the page, but i'm just pointing out the need for revision.

how do you mark it as such?

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Ecological crisis
The article stated that "Even the mounting ecological crisis is linked to adversarialism, because it arises from a false division between humanity and "the rest" of nature."

I removed this because it is questionable (and lacks a footnote). "[E]cological crisis" is ambiguous and has not been established to be caused by man. Furthermore, industry (human action) is consistent with Jainism's "mental states and intention" (q.v.) and isn't opposed to nature (e.g., Adam Smith's invisible hand promotes/incentivizes stewardship over--and thus conservation of--privately owned natural resources; though certain forms of environmental exploitation do deplete resources and/or cause pollution, such as "tragedies of the commons" via government-enforced public property and government policies which hinder tort legal action). Surely, Jainism doesn't categorically reject the use of natural resources, for how can mankind survive without it? Urgos (talk) 22:52, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Cockroaches and bedbugs
What does a Jain householder do when their apartment or house is infested by cockroaches or bedbugs? What alternative is there to calling an exterminator to kill the insects? Keraunos (talk) 17:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Misconceptions of nonviolence
Considering the GA status of the article, I have removed the sub-section 'Glory of death on the battlefield' as it doesn't cite even a single source. It also appears to be an original research.-Nimit (talk) 04:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Glory of death on the battlefield
The Hindu belief that death in battle resulted in rebirth in heavens has been recorded in Mahabharata where Krishna tells Arjuna: "Slain you will attain heavens, conquering you will enjoy earth; Therefore rise, O Arjuna, resolved to do battle"

- Bhagavad Gita ii 37

Madhavacharya comments on this saying, "So in order to protect both the Earth and the heavenly realms it is better for a mighty warrior to face his enemies and fight. This Lord Krishna emphasises with the word hata meaning slain showing that slain or not slain there is benefit in both. So by this Arjunas previous doubt of not knowing what is better to slay or be slain and will they have victory or not are eradicated as both conclusions give benefit. So Arjuna should rise up and fight."

However, according to Jainas, death accompanied by hatred and violence can never lead to heavens. According to a story in Bhagavati Sūtra, all the 840,000 soldiers who perished in a war between Konika, the Magadhan emperor and other kings, were either reborn in hell or as animals. Only one person who maintained equanimity in the midst of death in battlefield was reborn in heaven.

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History is missing
When was this doctrine first formulated, and by whom or in which texts? A historical overview would be very helpful. Cl ea n Co py talk 13:01, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Copied content to Nonviolence
Copied content from Ahimsa in Jainism to Nonviolence See Ahimsa in Jainism pages history for attribution. Rishabh.rsd (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing
I noticed a lot of dangling refs on this article. I have managed to chase down a number of sources, but some I just cannot locate, or the harvard source provided is so unclear it cannot be worked out. The changes I have made are in these edits. If anyone can find the sources, please feel free to add them back in. If you need any assistance, please don't be afraid to message me directly for assistance. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 17:16, 7 August 2021 (UTC)