Talk:Ahirwar

Ahir and Ahar are one and same.
ahir or ahar or aheer are one and same and should come under ahir page of wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.101.155.250 (talk) 10:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * That may be the case, but I searched and am simply not finding any evidence linking "Ahirwar"/"Aharwar" and "Ahar". It may well exist, but we need to track it down to make sure. In the meantime, I have created a new page Ahar (caste), and if the two turn out to be the same thing we can always merge them. What I did find though was mention of the Ahirwar being associated with the Mochi (caste) of Nepal, and also some mention of Ahirwar Chamars, weavers, etc. Are those just coincidental terms, or all part of the same group? I'd greatly appreciate any help in sorting out which names belong to which groups. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * EDIT: started a discussion about it here: Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020
change chamar caste to schedule caste. 47.8.165.66 (talk) 20:41, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2021
Ahirwarbis not a chamar, ahirwar is a Buddhist community. So kindly edit this page and article, chamar is not any word this are abuse.. Kindly mind it 2401:4900:47FD:E314:0:46:4C99:5B01 (talk) 19:38, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2021
D.ahirwar (talk) 18:10, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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Chamar and Ahirwar are tottaly different caste.
The Chamar is an offspring of a Suta Male and a Kshtariya Female.

Ref-: Aushnas smriti.

Where Ahirwar are leather worker.

Historian Geo W. Briggs in his book The Religious Life of India - The Chamars. Reject the origin of Leather worker for Chamars.

Maheyyash (talk) 09:44, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

History
Chamar word is not givien by any muslim rulers this is a fake story. "Ahirwar or Suryavanshi Ahirwar or Chaudhary Suryavanshi or Chanwarvanshiya were known by the identity of Chanwarvansh's brave Suryavanshi Kshatriyas classified in Ahirwar, but the Mughals forcefully gave Chanwar Vanshi Suryavanshi Kshatriya the status of Chamar because Suryavanshi Kshatriyas of Chanwarvansh refused to accept Islam. They refused and said that we can make shoes and slippers from the skin of animals but cannot accept Islam. And then the Kshatriyas of Chanvarvansh left the work of leather and started farming, so they started addressing them by the names Ahirwar and Jatav. Today it is a sub-caste of the Jatav caste. Both Ahirwar and Jatav are heroic Suryavanshi Kshatriyas of Chanvarvansh. Jatav and Ahirwar are members of the same caste". Chamar is an offspring of a Suta male and a kshtariya female according to Aushnas smriti. So there is no relationship between Chamar word and muslims.

Maheyyash (talk) 09:54, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2023
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