Talk:Ahmet Ağaoğlu

Just to let know
I was to anonymous who expended the article. Mostly from the recent book about him, and few papers. Fad (ix) 20:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, they are good additions abakharev 20:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Valid rationale and no opposition; The subject is indeed clearly the primary topic. Andrewa (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Ahmet Ağaoğlu (journalist) → Ahmet Ağaoğlu – per Disambiguation. It's very clear that this Ahmet Ağaoğlu is much much much notabler than another Ahmet Ağaoğlu. Takabeg (talk) 17:26, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


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Nagorno-Karabakh
User:Parishan claimed the term 'Nagorno Karabakh' was not in use in 1869. But A. Holly Shissler uses the term Nagorno Karabakh (you can read (here) and there is the article History of Nagorno-Karabakh in Wikipedia. Please explain with sources. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 15:53, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahmet Agaoglu, però, era nato nella regione oggi conosciuta come Nagorno-Karabagh (Dagliq Qarabag) da famiglia sciita, e partecipò attivamente anche alla vita politica azera, tra il 1905 e il 1908, militando in movimenti nazionalistici... Takabeg (talk) 16:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

In addition to the sources mentioned by me in the article, here is what a superficial search in Google Books has shown: I can continue. Parishan (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * "Ahmet Agaoglu was born in the city of Shusha in the Karabagh region of Russian-controlled Azerbaijan in 1869". Ada Holland Shissler
 * "Another influential theorist was Agaoglu, born Agayev to a prosperous Muslim family in Russian Azerbaijan in 1869". Michael Mann
 * "Agaoglu Ahmed was born in Azerbaijan, but went to Tiflis, Moscow and Paris to complete his studies." British Institute of Archaeology at Ankara
 * "Ahmet Agaoglu, in contrast to Fethi, aroused as many contradictory and violent evaluations as there were observers. Eleven years Fethi's senior, the Azerbaijan-born law and literature professor and veteran politician had studied in St. Petersburg." Walter F. Weiker
 * "Another influential member was Ahmet Agaoglu, an intellectual born in Azerbaijan and formerly active in the CUP." Sylvia Kedourie
 * "Ahmad Agaoglu, who was born in Russian Azerbaijan, worked closely with the people like Gasprinskii and then went to Istanbul after the Young Turk revolution in 1908." Beatrice Forbes Manz

If you want, you can continue to do. But Shusha (Shushi) belonged to Elisabethpol Governorate of the Russian Empire. I think there is no reason to emphasize your Azerbaijani nationalism, even if Ahmet Ağaoğlu was a nationalist :) In short it's nessesary to try to resolve today's territorial dispute. This article is related with historical figure. Takabeg (talk) 14:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I suggest you stop accusing me of "Azerbaijani nationalism" for my every edit if you do not wish to be reported for WP:NPA. Parishan (talk) 14:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This is not personal attack, it's fact that you deneutralized articles. Please read WP:NPOV again. Takabeg (talk) 14:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * With this POV pushing edit, the historical fact that Ahmet Ağaoğlu was born in the Russian Empire, was hidden. Takabeg (talk) 15:03, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Accusations of nationalism constitute a personal attack. I added a reference to the Russian Empire; hope this issue is resolved. Parishan (talk) 15:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ahmed Agayev
He was also know as Ahmed Agayev.

But we cannot find Ahmed bey Agayev in English books. Takabeg (talk) 15:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)