Talk:Airwave Solutions

poor datarates
This needs to make note of the fact that airwave offer pisspoor data rates and most police forces are not looking to use it for anymore than core data service (status messages etc) - against a backdrop of political pressure to do just that. sadly I'm not sure sources of that nature exist. --Fredrick day 21:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I echo your criticism of the network, but to date, it's still being used by quite a few British police forces. --Factorylad (talk) 17:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Firstly anyone who knows anything about Tetra will tell you that the network was built primarily with voice comms in mind therefore, as Airwave's customers and technology has advanced the need for 'Data Comms' has increased. The reason data rates would appear to be poor is because the network needed to be upgraded to support increased use of this facility, this is not to also mention that base radios needed to be integrated to support data rates up to 64kbit/s by combining 4 time slots into 1 single data channel as a single time slot would previously only allow approx 16kbit/s, hence your slow data rate! Secondly, Airwave supports approx 180,000 Police users which cover pretty much the whole of the UK Police Force. Thirdly, more training is required for the end users to increase network and appliance knowledge. Unfortunately this is not the responsibility of Airwave and is solely down to force management as they supply their own equipment and provide their own training. It would be far more constructive to make your line manager aware instead of posting comments on Wikipedia that are only meant to undermine the good work that Airwave employees do on a daily basis to support and maintain the network. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.54.134 (talk) 00:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

"more training is required for the end users to increase network and appliance knowledge" So, what you are saying is that it's the forces fault for not knowing how to use your shoddy, badly specced designed-by-political-policy equipment properly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.109.201 (talk) 16:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Dates?
The article could do with some dates for when the system was proposed, when it started being used by the emergency service and when it is expected to be in use by all three emergency services (Scottish Ambulance seem to be many years behind in their changeover to Airwave). jmb (talk) 07:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Airwave Collapsed During London Riots (2011) Compounding Unrest
UK Police were forced to use their own personal mobile phones to co-ordinate strategy a leaked reports states. Such were the delays that rioters had already moved on before officers could respond. Astonishingly this seems to be the first time that criminal communication's over the authorities own system's has had the upper hand when it comes to coordinating tactics. Twobells (talk) 21:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This section, which doesn't contain the above, now reads like a propaganda piece from the Met Police/manufacturer. Thryduulf (talk) 10:56, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

According to a report from the Police Federation Review of the 2011 England riots some police services of the United Kingdom were forced to use their own personal mobile phones to co-ordinate strategy during the riots. However, the National Policing Improvement Agency says the Airwave Network was able to cope with 16,000 officers deployed in the London area. "Some officers had to wait a few seconds for their calls to get through, but, fundamentally, the network proved to be most resilient," it said in a statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeadShotDickie (talk • contribs) 10:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

National Policing Improvement Agency report
I removed the link to the National Policing Improvement Agency, [here http://www.npia.police.uk/en/docs/Business_Plan_2009-2010distilled.pdf National Policing Improvement Agency Business Plan 2009-10]. The report doesn't seem to mention Airwave by name so at best it's WP:OR. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:43, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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=Grenfell Tower= The firefighter in the cited BBC article is not, I think, referring to an Airwave radio, but to fireground radios. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.184.3 (talk) 21:29, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Correct the firefighter quoted was using fireground radios inside the building. UK Fire brigades only use Airwave within Fire Engines or by senior officers to keep in contact with Control as per the following reference "Only the main scheme fire radios are Tetra, these are the ones mainly fitted in Fire Engines to keep in touch with control. The Main Firefighter handheld radios (also known as fireground radios) that all firemen wear and that are used at incidents will remain on the usual frequency of 457.0375.". Another firefighter at Grenfell is quoted as having said "0nly the most senior firefighters had the best kind of “air wave” radios".