Talk:Ajaw

Pronunciation
Pronunciation should probably be given. It's isn't it? Eluchil404 20:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's: ·Maunus· · ƛ · 20:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I had thought that in the modern orthog. for Classical Mayan/Classical Ch'olti' transcriptions,  was pretty much used to stand for the voiceless velar fricative phoneme, so would it not be something like ...? Or, Maunus, are you indicating you think in this sequence its articulation would shift to something akin to   ? I've read that in Classical times there was definite phonemic contrast btw  and, a distinction now lost in many if not most modern Mayan langs; so maybe a 'modern' pronunciation would be different. IANAL(inguist), tho'.


 * Over at FAMSI they've recently begun adding sound files to Montgomery's dictionary of Maya hieroglyphs; the entry and sound file for AJAW is here. Dunno whether the pronunciation is 'modern' or supposed to recreate a Classic-era one. It does sound more like to my decidedly untrained ear. --cjllw  ʘ  TALK 05:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not sure, but I think I can find out. I just don't know what the letter j is supposed to represent in this kind of transcription - normally it represents h in spanish influenced orthograhpies of mexican languages, but since classical maya had both [h] and [x] it could be used for the latter here. I'll check.·Maunus· · ƛ · 06:45, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It seems there's no cut-and-dried transcription, and that when the "ajaw" title is spelled out syllabically in the inscriptions, a glyph with the sound-value ja is typical of Early Classic texts, while Late Classic texts can use a different glyph, soundvalue ha. At least, according to Boot 2002, p.5:
 * --cjllw ʘ  TALK 09:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * --cjllw ʘ  TALK 09:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Good to know.·Maunus· · ƛ · 11:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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