Talk:Akbelen Forest

Secondary source for company response please
The paragraph beginning, YK Energy said the Yeniköy and Kemerköy power plants are strategically important for Turkey... is sourced directly to a statement from the company. I think the company response should be sourced to a secondary news outlet, because they would (hopefully) fact-check the company's claims. I understand that this is an attempt to provide balanced POV, but if journalists aren't repeating the company's claims, then neither should we. If no secondary source can be found, I would like to remove this paragraph. Larataguera (talk) 13:44, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm unsure. Not disagreeing with you, but not certain or agreeing either. It is attributed. That said, I suspect that state-aligned media will share what the company said, if anyone can assess Turkish-language sources. Of course the independence of that is also very open to challenge. Hoping others will comment. CT55555 (talk) 15:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have removed "are strategically important for Turkey" as highly dubious. It may be possible to fact check the statement that "Yeniköy and Kemerköy power plants supply most of the electricity in the South Aegean part of the country" which sounds plausible Chidgk1 (talk) 15:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This source says "The Akbelen Forest ... is an old and natural red pine forest", contradicting the company's claim that it is "plantation forest". This is why we don't cite company press releases. Larataguera (talk) 17:10, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That source is wrong as the pines are not red pines but Turkish pines. They have incorrectly translated the name of the tree. But unfortunately I don't have a reliable source to say how natural the forest is so I accept your deletion of that claim. However I am putting back in their claim that "that they will restore the ecosystem once mining is complete and that the company has planted millions of trees countrywide". as we need to keep a neutral point of view. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:36, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Having said that their claim that "as the power stations are providing baseload power they could not be replaced by renewable energy." is irrelevant because Akkuyu Nuclear Power Plant just along the coast is due to start up very soon. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:53, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I still think we can have NPOV without citing company shill. (In fact that's what NPOV means!) For example, this from the AP : "The governor’s office said the area would be 'rehabilitated' by planting 130,000 saplings." That's a reasonable thing to include without repeating unverifiable statements about how many trees this company has planted, taken from a press release we already know to contain other dubious claims. Larataguera (talk) 19:39, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Or CT55555's edit just now giving the president's response as reported in a secondary source. There's plenty of other stuff without using primary sources. Larataguera (talk) 19:46, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that source - have added Chidgk1 (talk) 06:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)