Talk:Al Jarreau

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Sure Jarreau does scat sing, but is it fair to describe him as a "scat singer"? It is fine to list him under scat singing of course, and calling him a jazz singer might be a bit to narrow - but describing him as a scat singer sounds like scat singing is pretty much all he does, which IMO isn't true. / Habj 07:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Scientologist
Can we get a reference about him being a former Scientologist? I just think it'd be good practice and maybe give us a good sentence. gren グレン 13:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's no mention at all of his affiliation with CoS, past or present. I'm removing the category until someone provides definitive info. Alcarillo 21:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I just came to this article after seeing a reference to his membership in CoS in a profile of Elizabeth Moss, who most definitely IS a Scientologist. He was in a video of "Eternal Child" by Chick Corea that featured Moss as a ballerina. I thought it was a mistake because I have read other accounts describing him as a mainstream/evangelical Christian, although Adventists are usually not considered mainstream either. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:05, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, the profile is in the New Yorker dated May 9, 2022. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:07, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

MUFFFINNNS!
Al Jarreau muffin! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.184.228 (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

MJ in Jazz??
The article makes it look like Michael Jackson won a Grammy in Jazz. I've looked at MJ's awards page, and couldn't find anything related to Jazz. He won in R&B, Pop and Rock. Maybe that's what the article means. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.49.124.107 (talk) 13:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

New CD to add ?
Hi,

Sorry but I am just too alien to the Wikipedia guidelines to dare editing, I thought I should mention that a new CD has been published. Cf http://www.deezer.com/fr/music/al-jarreau-metropole-orkest/al-jarreau-and-the-metropole-orkest-live-4009561, I just discovered this artist today. I'm also not editing the main article with this because this would appear as a commercial link, and spamming is not my purpose.

Best regards, Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.1.235.238 (talk) 00:21, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Tabulation of chart positions / Possible separate discography page
The discography section seems cluttured with all these chart positions that make the section look so clumsy. Al Jarreau deserves to have his releases tabulated just like all big artists preferably in a separate discography page. werldwayd (talk) 01:40, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Possibly missing sources in "5 Awards"
Hello, I'm the one who has edited some things recently.

5.1 Grammy Awards:

http://www.awardsandshows.com/grammy-awards.html

Some years ago, there were some sites on the internet with all nominations and wins since the beginning (1959). Unfortunately most of those sites have been taken down. There is just this site. Because of the authenticity of these facts I have linked all these nominations and wins with the suitable wikipedia articles. All wins can be found on primary Grammy-related wikipedia articles. Some nominations can be found there too. There are some nominations, which can't be found in these Grammy-related wikipedia articles ("R&B Male Vocal" for "Never Givin' Up", High Crime, "Since I Fell For You", Heart's Horizon and "Wait for the Magic", "R&B Vocal Group" for "Edgartown Groove", "Engineered Recording" for Jarreau, "Instrumental Arrangement" for "Mornin'" and "Step by Step", "Jazz Vocal Album" for Accentuate the Positive) But these mentioned nominations can be found in this site "awardsandshows". These nominations are correct! By the way, with respect to the "Producer of the Year"-nomination for Jay Graydon in 1984, I have put in the colum "nomination" the album Jarreau, because it is definitely clear for which album in 1983 Jay Graydon as a producer was nominated for.

5.2 Hall of Fame

http://www.soulmusic.com/Index.asp?s=115&T=116

His induction to the Hollywood Walk of Fame can be found on related wikipedia articles. There are also some photos on the web with his star. Unfortunately there is no wikipedia article about the SoulMusic Hall of Fame, but there is a main site by them, which I put in as a source.

5.3 Honorary degrees.

http://www.berklee.edu/about/honorary%20copy.html

On this site of the Berklee College of Music (a reliable source!) you can find him as a receiver of an Honorary degree of Music in 1991. He received another Honorary degree of Fine Arts at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 2004, but I couldn't find a reliable source. If you someone finds any, that one is welcome!

If someone put these sources in the right format, this someone would be welcome. I hope that any time this sentence: "This article needs additional citations for verification." will be taken down.141.2.185.13 (talk) 23:08, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

AL JARREAU
I WENT TO A CONCERT IN CINCINNATI OHIO WITH AL JARREAU AND JEFFE45.59.35.167 (talk) 11:38, 7 November 2015 (UTC)REY OSBORNE AND AL SAT DOWN THE WHOLE TIME. HE MENTION THAT HE HAD VERTBRA PROBLEMS WAS THIS THE REASON HE COULD NOT WALK?

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Baseball and basketball
The article has Category:Ripon Red Hawks baseball players and Category:Ripon Red Hawks men's basketball players. But these are both unsupported by any article content? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:34, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Alamo as a source?
They are a stock photo website. If they have a photo of Al Jarreau it might be an acceptable source for a picture for the top of the entry (They may charge for images, however; not sure). But it is NOT a reliable source for article content. There are already major discrepancies about things like his religious affiliations that need to be straightened out and sources like this give no reliable verification whatsoever. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:15, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

That should be ALAMY. Don't know if that was my mistake or Samsung getting out of control on the auto-correct. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:27, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

GALE as a source.
GALE is an online database that provides access to published academic and journalistic sources. I am struggling to keep my composure at the idea that someone would list it as a source. It would be no different from me listing the website for my local public library or just "Book my friend Dwayne let me read I don't remember the name of." This is either total inability to understand what makes something a valid reference or an excuse for someone to post completely made-up nonsense as it was the same as facts. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:26, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Dear God, this is getting old.
aljarreau.com? NOT A VALID SOURCE OF INFORMATION!!! It is a sample page for WordPress to advertise their line of websites people can create for themselves. No biography section, which is unsurprising because it appears that large parts of this entry were completely forged -- maybe not completely made up but without the slightest effort to include verifiable or accurate information. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:34, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Badger Boys State info. Also a WordPress site -- information not available. Reliable sources do not use WordPress for their websites. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 01:37, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I have done a bit more research. One of the links to aljarreau.com has an https prefix which apparently leads to the sample website. An oddly scantily sourced article from The Root (also included in references) links to the "correct" website. Nothing on the website gives any reason to think it's legit -- it could easily be something a fan put together and still has no substantial biographical content. The Root article could be considered a reliable source by virtue of the website being considered reliable but the article looks like something cobbled together by someone who knows their editor doesn't bother with fact-checking as long as there's nothing libelous included. It uncritically posts a "tribute" from the aljarreau.com "official website" without even bothering to name the person who wrote the tribute. It is likely more-or less accurate but my suspicion would be that most of the material is plagiarized given the long stretch with absolutely no references or citations. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Reference #6 is a brochure page from what appears to be a music festival. The amount of lazy sourcing in this entry is truly over the top. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Tv.com went out of service. Should be other sources available since it's just listing an appearance on SNL. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:16, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) 8 is not an encyclopedic source. It's a promotional page for a jazz festival.  Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:22, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) 8 is not an encyclopedic source. It's a promotional page for a jazz festival.  Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:22, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) 12 does not have the article listed. It's a radio magazine that appears to be mostly related to promotion of the Virgin Islands as a vacation spot. The article listed isn't even about Al Jarreau per se. If it even exists.  Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:34, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

16 is completely bogus. The conductor does not have his own website and the website linked is to an unrelated business. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

17 is not a list of musicians Al Jarreau has appeared with and should not be considered to document such a list. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

18 does not include information about where the star was placed. It is simply a picture showing Mr. Jarreau holding the star with a brief caption; whether a facsimile is given to the recipient as a standard practice or if it is presented as a trophy prior to placement I don't know but it doesn't contain the information the entry implies. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 02:54, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

19 appears to be a link to an archaic website with no notability as a source. The article is clearly just a puff-piece. Accuracy Banshee (talk) 03:05, 17 January 2023 (UTC)