Talk:Al Unser

POV concerns, plus tone tag
This looks like one of those glorifying biographies how some person seriously won at life since forever and how his death will be a tragedy to mankind. For that reason, it is biased (towards him) and not written in the tone that a Wikipedia article should be in. —   06:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Holy blowjobs! What is this doing in Wikipedia? It's supposed to tell us about him, not how great he is. Aside from that -- the man is a racecar driver, not the Pope. Rhombus 03:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've tried to clean it up, but it still needs work. Have at 'er. --Rhombus 04:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's something I've personally dubbed Enthusiast's Disease, where objectivity disappears due to said approval of the person on a level of personal taste. It regularly shows up on stubs in Wikipedia. -- Chr.K. 06:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is also not so much "enthusiasm" POV at times as it is writing that needs definite improvement, namely in avoiding redundancy. After pointing out his victory in the 1970 and '71 500s, one does not need to later point out that he won the 500 in 1970 and '71. -- Chr.K. 06:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The article looks more like a Wikipedia article, so I've removed the tags. If you think I'm a jerk because I removed them, add them back on. —   17:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

2006 Arrest and Police Brutality case...
Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article?


 * http://www.theagitator.com/2008/01/03/cop-of-the-year-2007/
 * www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1680812/posts
 * http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/2006-12-14-unser-trial_x.htm

Basically, Unser attempted to pass a police roadblock and the scene got ugly. Police claimed he refused to leave and resisted arrest. At trial, another officer testified on Unser's behalf, saying that the officers at the scene acted inappropriately and he was not resisting arrest. Unser was aquitted. Messiahxi (talk) 19:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * clearly no one feels all that strongly about this, so I guess I will try to find some time to add a brief section about this. It seems notable to me, but I'm open to discussion.  Messiahxi (talk) 17:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well put - a paragraph like you have above seems reasonable. Royal broil  17:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Article name
Shouldn't this be Al Unser Sr. or Al Unser, Sr. ? I remember him credited that way during races in CART. 70.29.208.129 (talk) 08:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point, he went by both names at different points in his career. No preference.  Royal broil  12:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * (copied from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing): Either one works in my opinion. If you moved it to Al Unser, Sr. we might want to consider having Al Unser redirect to Al Unser (disambiguation). -Drdisque (talk) 19:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Remembering, of course, that we'd also need to change the 300 or so existing links to Al Unser to point to the new article name instead. DH85868993 (talk) 15:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * So... if I initiated a Requested Move, I'd have to initiate a bot request as well... 70.29.208.129 (talk) 15:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I bet that changing the infoboxes at the bottom of Unser's article will clear up most of the articles that need link changed. Too bad that you haven't applied for an account. If you had a few hundred edits under a registered name, you could run an Auto Wiki Browser to take care of the rest. You would be able to do the move as well since it doesn't appear to be controversial. I enjoy the watchlist so I can watch the articles that I've either spent time on or feel are very important, like this article.  Royal broil  03:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Every ABC Sports broadcast of the Indianapolis 500 (and I would assume plenty of other AOWR races) between 1983 and 1992, when they raced together at the same time, showed Al, Sr.'s name as simply "Al Unser," and Jr.'s name as "Al Unser, Jr." Likewise, when Unser won the 1987 Indianapolis 500, Paul Page, then the Voice of the 500 (chief announcer of the radio broadcast), referred to The Second Four-Time Winner of the Indianapolis 500-Mile Race (capitals for the implied effect)...as Al Unser. Period. "Sr." thus seems to be a verbal, but not statistical/official name/etc., disambiguation for viewers/listeners who they felt might have otherwise become confused. --Chr.K. (talk) 16:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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