Talk:Alan Partridge

Alan Partridge's badge
It deserves to be mentioned. Cognoscens me AHA Cognoscens Te  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.27.184.234 (talk) 08:44, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Fansite
This Wiki reads too much like a fan site, with its 'fictional biography' et al. It would work much better if the information was presented in a non fanboy way, such as presenting the history of the development of the character by Steve Coogan, the radio shows, its transition to Television etc. I understand that there are dedicated fans out there who are so absorbed in the fictional 'realities' of the show that they appreciate a wiki that presents every subtle, and trivial 'fact' as found in the shows, but the rest of us want to find useful information on Wikipedia rather than a fictional biography of a fictional character.

Also, these pages contain many spoilers that people new to the show may not appreciate.

I dont really expect to reach a consensus for a re-write, but I think it is needed.

Sorry, didn't sign. M000558 16:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. I've tried to trim out the fat from the 'character' section - it's useful to have a description of what the character's like, but as it originally was it was just too detailed. But yeah, the 'biography' needs some real trimming - it's longer than some real people's that I've seen on Wikipedia, and is just crammed with lots of trivial stuff.--Joseph Q Publique 11:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it needs a character history. It doesn't even mention that Partridge was created by Lee and Herring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.61.131.62 (talk) 04:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Opinion
Alan Partridge is the funniest man alive. I never leave these one-off messages but it's true. Marskell 22:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

House of the Dead 3
"While playing House of the Dead 3 against a child, "Shitty zombies!" -Are we sure it's HOTD3? It looked like Crisis Zone to me... Magic Pickle 23:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't have thought there were zombies in Crisis Zone. While one could imagine zombie-like creatures running abound in HOTD3. And we all know how precise Alan is about defining his undead... Rockpocket (talk) 03:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

There aren't any zombies in Crisis Zone - but the gun he's using is the one from Crisis Zone - pretty sure... Magic Pickle 12:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Correction
I made a correction to the Radio series, the person who updated it recently (and they may have been building on something I originally, and mistakenly, wrote) said that Alan shot Forbes on the radio program. It happened on the final episode of the TV series. And it did not end his BBC chat career, that fate was sealed when he punched Tony Hayers on the 1995 Christmas special. User:Sponline 23 March 2006

'Fictional'
I notice that someone who altered a comment said 'fictional characters aren't born'. That may be true, but how is it of relevance here? Alan Partridge is clearly a real person, as we live and breathe.
 * No, he's a fictional character. Jim Michael (talk) 01:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

(Fictional) government minister
Why fictional? As the writer of (most - iirc) of the orginal piece, I don't really know why I used it - but several real people have appeared with Alan, including Clive Anderson, Bryan Ferry and Elton John. But you can take it out if its annoying you that much. User:Sponline 23 March 2006


 * Why the qualification? One acknowledgement at the top of the article is enough, there's no need to explain on a character-by-character basis. Guyal of Sfere 09:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

A little too self referential...
Although beautifully written (almost as a good as Bravo Two Zero by Andy McNabb which, of course, actually improves with every read) some of the text in the article is a little too Partridgesque for the general reader. I've tried to tone it down a little without losing the light tone. Rockpocket 00:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Quotes
As much as we all love them, i fear the quotes sections is getting a little too comprehensive. The problem appears to be that every week or so, another editor appears and adds his or her favorite Partridge quotes. WP is not a collection of quotes, so i think we should think about pruning these and then limiting the addition of new ones. I'm not quite sure how to go about it, though. I would suggest starting with context. They have to stand alone to the reader unfamiliar with the subject.

For example, although the "Dan, Dan" scene is among my favorite of all time, it is really prety meaningless as a quote. The comedy is all in the context. Similar with the Chris Rea/Mini Kiev monologue. That isn't a quote, it is a scene. Finally, the "Oh Ladyboys" quote is a minor part of a larger joke (it was said as a gesture of disgust after taking a sip of the mixture). Its pretty meaningless as a standalone quote to anyone not familiar with the scene. Thoughts or suggestions? Rockpocket (talk) 18:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Lexus
Am I right that Partridge got himself a Lexus because he thought it was a luxury car (presumably he was strapped for cash so couldn't get something prestigious)? I have added this to the Lexus page trivia section but it keeps on being removed (possibly by irate Lexus owners, who presumably have done a Partridge themselves!) DavidFarmbrough 07:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed. Alan considers Lexi (plural) to be "the Japanese Mercedes" . I would say he is among the most famous Lexus drivers and deserves a mention in their trivia section. Rockpocket (talk) 07:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * That is what I thought. He even got a mention when Top Gear were reviewing Lexi as a 'mark against' buying a Lexus. DavidFarmbrough 08:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Further to this, Partridge has affected the image of the Lexus to such an extent that he is referre to in Parkers] Price guide: "If you fit into Lexus' buyer profile for the IS, you're probably young, affluent and style-conscious. But that was before ex-Rover-driving, sports-casual-wearing Alan Partridge decided to buy one." So it's not just me!DavidFarmbrough 10:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Alan is now mentioned in the Trivia section of the Lexus article. Looks like he has managed to be deemed important enough! 86.41.196.138 23:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Correction
In opening paragraph:- "Two radio and three television series..." surely "four television series"? The Day Today, KMKYWAP and the two series of I'm Alan Partridge??
 * I think, in this case, "series" refers to "shows" as opposed to "seasons" (to adopt the US terms). The character has appeared in three different series (of whch one had two, em, series). Perhaps the paragraph should say "Two radio and three television shows" to make that clearer.  Rockpock  e  t  19:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Lord Morgan of Glossop died from an apparent heart attack...?
"and, in the series finale, his guest Lord Morgan of Glossop died from an apparent heart attack."

Where did this come from? Alan cleary shoots him in the chest by accident when looking at the dueling pistols! Hence why LMoG says "Be careful with that!", then the gun goes off and blood appears on LMoGs chest.


 * You are confusing the radio show with the tv show. The man Alan shoots on the TV show of KMKYWAP is Forbes McAllister; Lord Morgan of Glossop appeared on the radio version of Alan's show. 86.41.215.16 14:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Vectra?
I am struggling to find any reference in the programme to the car used by Alan t drive to Dundee. The article says the car was a Vauxhaull Vectra, but I don't believe this is the case. Alan went to great lengths to hold on to his Rover 800 in series 1 of I'm Alan Partridge, and has a Lexus in series 2. I can't recall a Vectra ever being mentioned.


 * I think this is just a comment made in conversation on one of the episodes- and was not shown on TV as such - and if I recall right Alan also says something like driving to dundee in bare feet too. That could be how the vectra comment came about --PrincessBrat 19:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Section on Cars
The section on Cars is esoteric and not important enough to be on its own. I've removed the section as well as cleaning up the rest of the article. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan page. The article was starting to drift from the formal tone.

I'm Still Alan Partridge: the new series is coming
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/profiles/steve_coogan.shtml


 * Isn't that just a working title of the second series of I'm Alan Partridge? There doesn't seem to be any new Partridge series in the works. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alberon (talk • contribs) 09:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

Yeah, and if you look at the dates on that page, it's obviously from 2002.

20:45, December 17, 2006 edit......
Just submitted a minor edit to the article. Few things added. I removed the following line ....

"In one episode, he seems protective of his personal assistant Lynn when they encounter a swinging couple who Alan describes as "sex people"."

.... as I don't feel that's the way things were at all. Alan feel protective of anyone?! Naaah! He just wanted to piss off as quickly as possible. He probably didn't want Dan and his wife to see the fat-deposits on his lower back. Now, if Mrs. Dan had been a ladyboy.... Gardener of Geda 20:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Character inspiration
I removed this entire section as original research. The only reliable sources were those detailing the similarity between Partridge and Wilson, which is already discussed in the previous section. Everything else is webpostings or discussion boards, or using comparisons to Partridge to illustrate a point about the individuals mentioned. For example, an article referring to Nick Owen as behaving like "Alan Partride on crack" is not an appropriate source for a claim that Partridge is based on Nick Owen. Rockpock e  t  05:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You bastard. I was looking for that section. I don't suppose you kept a list of the names? Couldn't you just have put Fact tags around some of them?


 * In fact, you could have just made sure that it said "Although no major inspiration has ever been mentioned by Coogan or other writers, it has been speculated that Alan Partridge is an amalgamation of x, y and z." It IS relevant that his character is a broad spoof of a certain type of "old school" TV presenter.

AGPAS
I've removed this link to a forum per our external links policy, as by its own admission has only 43 members, which isn't sufficiently notable enough: On 10th December 2005, the Alan Gordon Partridge Appreciation Society (AGPAS) was founded and has 43 members as of 26th January 2007.

Bob talk 13:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Lookalike
does alan look like Gordon Burns? 82.24.175.199


 * Yep. I suppose he does. A little.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me....

or is it just me —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.24.175.199 (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Well, I don't know. I don't know what you look like. Send in a photo and we'll give you an opinion.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 19:39, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * http://www.skool-days.co.uk/images/krypton.jpg, gordon burns, and http://epguides.com/KnowingMeKnowingYou/cast.jpg alan partidge 82.24.175.199 14:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You mean to tell me that you are Gordon Burns? Oh. Hi Gord!  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 16:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * would explain why alan's middle name is "Gordon" - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.24.175.199 (talk • contribs)., 15:09, February 17, 2007


 * True, Gord. True. Tell me - your middle name isn't Alan, by any chance? That would be good, that.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 20:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

btw im not gordan burns... i was watching the krypton factor on ftn and i thought he looked like alan - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.24.175.199 (talk • contribs). , 00:13, February 18, 2007


 * Oooooohh - sorry, Gord. Imagine how embarrassed I feel now, thinking that you were Gordon Burns! I thought it was a bit strange that Gordon Burns would be writing in to Wikipedia telling people that he looked like Alan Partridge and not bothering to sign his posts, mind you, but stranger things have happened, I'm told. Yes.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 01:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This is ironic, im watching the Krypton Factor just now and Steve Coogan is guest staring in it 82.24.175.199 19:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Ironic, Gord? No way. There's clearly a plot afoot. I reckon this Steve Cougar guy, whoever he is, reads Wikipedia and deliberately went on the program to flummox us. I'm scared.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 21:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Partridgedvd2.jpeg
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Bangkok Ladyboys is 'Bangkok Chickboys'
The sentence: " Hayers was not impressed, and Alan had to wrap up his production company Peartree Productions, firing all its staff. During his time at the Linton Travel Tavern, we discovered more about Alan's failed marriage, his children and his obsession with "Bangkok Ladyboys". "

Should have "Bangkok Chickboys" at the end...

Character inspiration strikes again
Although I note that it's been removed and replaced before, I have removed the section headed "Speculated character inspiration" as original research. Unless specific citations can be made for inclusion, it should probably remain here:


 * While it is likely that Alan Partridge is not based on any one particular real-life personality (but rather a composite caricature of various presenters from British television), it has been speculated that certain presenters might have inspired his creation. These have included Nick Owen, Fred Dinenage, Tony Wilson, Alan Titchmarsh, Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Madeley. Peter Levy is often jokingly cited as being the 'real' Alan Partridge.


 * The writers of Alan Partridge have yet to explicitly state who their inspiration was, if indeed, there was anyone.

Bob talk 17:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Victoria Beckham!?
Dear, Jesus, God no. I'm not sure if I could think of someone less suitable to play mousey Lynne. Maybe Paris Hilton? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.74.155.90 (talk) 07:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

"Also, in the second series of I'm Alan Partridge recounts a story about a time <...>"

This is an example of poor grammar. There is no mention in the sentence of who recounted the story. I am making a change to this. DanTheShrew (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Grammar
"Also, in the second series of I'm Alan Partridge recounts a story about a time <...>"

This is an example of poor grammar. There is no mention in the sentence of who recounted the story. I am making a change to this. DanTheShrew (talk) 19:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi DanTheShrew, thanks correcting any mistakes, but you don't really need to point out every minor correction you make to this article on the talk page unless it's particularly controversial - an edit summary will suffice. Bob talk 20:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Best of the Beatles, Pete Best?
"... he describes Paul McCartney's band Wings as "the band The Beatles could have been" (by whom, his favourite album is, of course, Best of the Beatles, the joke here being that this album was in fact a cash-in effort by Pete Best that contained no actual Beatles music). "

It seems to me that the joke in question here is that Alan couldn't name any Beatles albums as his favourite, so he just said "The Best of the Beatles". I really don't think he was referencing some obscure thing involving Pete Best. Can anyone give some insight into this? Colleen3217 —Preceding undated comment added 00:09, 1 September 2009 (UTC).


 * Exactly what I was thinking. Nothing to do with a Pete Best album, he could equally have said "The Beatles Greatest Hits" or something similar. Decorativeedison (talk) 15:15, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Daydreaming?
How do we know he actually wants to be a ladyboy with 10 inch shoes on him? Could it be that he is worrying about being put in to a such scenario. I imagine he is day-nightmaring) if such a word exists. He is trying everything to kickstart his quagmired career. If he wanted to be a ladyboy, he would have given it a go already.--85.164.223.109 (talk) 23:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Alden Partridge, Norwich, Vermont, USA, born 1755
The Bill Bryson book, A Walk in the Woods, refers to a remarkable character Alben Partridge who was born in Norwich, Vermont in 1755. He was superintendent of West Point by the age of 30 and somewhat of a hiker. Is this coincidence or was the name / location any kind of inspiration for the Steve Coogan's character? --Maclauk (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Bouncing Back
"It was met with positive reviews and was a commercial success, compared to his fictional last book 'Bouncing Back' which was panned by critics and didn't sell well."

This is in the section about the Partridge autobiography, I'm sure 'Bouncing Back' was just the book he wrote in the 2nd Series of IAP?

Does it really have any relevance to a REAL book that's been released? Wallhead3004 (talk) 09:48, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The entire fictional biography section is a bit confused. Some subsections are entirely fictional information, apparently synthesised from various sources, sometimes with citations to individual episodes or books.  Other subsections have quite a lot of out-of-universe information - the section about the movie is entirely real-life information, for example.  I'm not sure quite what to suggest about this.  I'd do some work on it myself only I'm not enough of a fan of the character to have all the necessary source material, and it's not obvious what facts come from what source.  Ho-hum.   Morwen - Talk 17:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the Places of My Life
Steve Coogan is doing a mockumentary type program with the Alan Partridge character, this should be mentioned in the article but I lack the know how to implement it with references ect.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.172.229 (talk) 19:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It aired over the winter and was...fine. Ceoil (talk) 15:11, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Michael's time in the army
It was said in an audio commentary by the writers/directors that if they decided to do a third series they would've revealed Michael was never in the army, completely understand if unrealized plans for a fictional friend of a fictional figure aren't article worthy, but just thought I'd mention it. --79.97.5.64 (talk) 14:43, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It was kind of impled anyway. Remember the stuff with the spoon. And no, prob not worth mentioning. Given Coogan is second only to Carr in generating spin off, lets keep this page as canonical as we can. Ceoil (talk) 15:10, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

In-Universe tag
I tagged this article because there is too much original research which is not supported by third-party sources. The article really needs a good trim. Any takers? --John (talk) 17:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't think Alan is a twitcher
Under "interests," it says that Alan is into birdwatching. I don't think this is accurate. He "used to be able" to imitate the call of a partridge, which he attempts on Mid Morning Matters, but this could just be part of his interest in his namesake, which is references several times across all of the series. Please correct me if I am wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.171.64.243 (talk) 04:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)