Talk:Alaska Permanent Fund

Re:Merge from Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation
I agree with this merge. The article on the corporation is really short, and doesn't need to be a separate article until there is at least a page of content. In my opinion. wrong Chad Lupkes 23:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have also redirected the forked article on the dividend here as it is thoroughly covered already. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Basic Income?
Consideration should be given to deleting the sentences about the comparison of a perma fund dividend to basic income. While on the one hand you can compare anything to anything, on the other hand this is not a very good comparison. This perma fund throws off a dividend, not an income, and the amount is so small that nobody could really utilize it as a basic income. This fund is a sovereign fund and the article would be better if it didn't go off on tangents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.27.38 (talk) 14:09, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Add information about parodies
Especially in The SImpsons Movie. 09:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Effect of U.S. Supreme Court decision in Zobel on low-income Alaskans
"In effect, this equal-amount aspect mathematically means a greater percentage of added income for people of lower incomes."

-This statement should either be verified or removed from the article. I don't have numbers on hand, but I can say from firsthand experience that the poorest Alaskans tend to be Native people in Western and Interior Alaska who have lived their entire lives in-state. If the amount of each recipient's PFD were determined according to the number of years the recipient has lived in Alaska, this would actually result in substantially higher PFD distributions for Alaska Native people. In effect, the real beneficiaries of the "equal-amount" rule are those people the U.S. Supreme Court spoke of in Zobel - "interstate travelers" who recently settled in Alaska.

137.229.82.103 (talk) The amount of each recipient's PFD IS NOT determined according to the number of years the recipient has lived in Alaska. Everyone gets the same amount. —Preceding undated comment added 19:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I've said plenty about our collective lack of historical perspective. The original distribution scheme, devised ca. 1980, called for payments based upon length of residency.  Same with the longevity bonus.  For many decades, the Pioneer Homes were geared towards providing care for long-time residents, rather than their recent status as an assisted living facility for dementia patients.  The Pioneer Homes could very well have been modeled on the Arizona Pioneers' Home or similar, but I don't recall having read any references to such.  Until Alaska's population greatly increased in recent years, groups such as the Pioneers of Alaska (whose membership is based upon length of residency in Alaska) and other long-time Alaskans held significant political sway.


 * I can certainly understand that not only these facts, but Ron Zobel himself, have been largely forgotten about in the years since. Ron Zobel was regarded as one of the most hated people in Alaska for a number of years after filing this lawsuit.  My memory is hazy, but in spite of his "celebrity," I believe he even ran for the legislature once (possibly against Loren Leman, but I don't recall exactly).  The initial $1,000 payment was equal to three years' worth of payments, which was due to the Zobel suit halting the initial distribution for some time.  I believe a gentleman named Rodney Vest challenged the longevity bonus scheme at roughly the same time on roughly the same basis.  Another thing which may be pertinent, but my memory is hazy, was that these suits were based upon an interpretation of the state constitution.RadioKAOS (talk) 20:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just looked up both the Zobel and Vest cases on westlaw.com. Ron and Penny Zobel had only lived in Alaska for two years at the time they initially filed the lawsuit in 1980.  Zobel had based his claim upon Article 1, Section 1 of the Alaska Constitution.  Vest based his claim upon the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, specifially, the Equal Protection Clause, of which the aforementioned section of the Alaska Constitution was roughly derived from.RadioKAOS (talk) 20:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Jury Duty Requisite
Within the "Alaska Permanent Fund" Wikipedia article, "I have added a subsection respectively under "4 Issues with the Permanent Fund"; "4.3 Requisite of Jury Duty". I have appropriately cited the Alaska State Statutes and Alaska Court rules, Alaska Court rules are apparently enacted by the Supreme Court of Alaska. I have made mention concerning the strict requisites for excuse from Jury Duty. References can be further sought online. ---roger (talk) 05:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

-The section contains legal and medical advice that is not appropriate and should be removed. Mindrag (talk) 05:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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Reference to CIO removed (July 2018)
I have removed the reference to Russell Read being the Chief Investment Officer as he has resigned. The Fund is searching for a replacement so perhaps the reference can be reinstated when a new CIO is appointed. Cobalt60blue (talk) 23:08, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

I have re-added the reference to the CIO now that a permanent replacement for the former CIO has been appointed. I also deleted references to prior CIOs which seemed historical / out-of-date / incomplete. Cobalt60blue (talk) 06:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Diagram instead...
I would prefer a diagram to show how the amount has increased year by year... --217.214.151.238 (talk) 21:33, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That might be nice, you want to make one using the data that's public and properly sourcing it and then upload it to the Commons and license its use here? JesseRafe (talk) 14:52, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I was trying to do this but I cannot make it work.
 * I was trying to do this but I cannot make it work.


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