Talk:Alastair Hugh Graham

duncan fallowell...
...did a lot of research into graham, including contacting family members of both graham & waugh, interviewing people who knew them both, receiving a cache of letters from graham's niece & so on. I have neither the time nor the patience with WP's rules to add anything myself, but I think the work that fallowell has done on the essay (to be found in "how to disappear: a memoir for misfits", available from all fine booktores as well as amazon..) merits at least a mention here, if it doesn't form the basis of a major rewrite of this article. it's also a cracking read.

duncanrmi (talk) 04:51, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Reworking of some elements
The phrasing of several passages is jarring: Hugh Graham was, as a scion of the Graham baronets of Netherby, not a "landed aristocrat", as baronets are gentry (see the Wikipedia articles on these, which cite reliable sources). Hugh Graham's father would correctly be called "Sir Frederick Ulric Graham, 3rd Baronet"; there's not generally any use of a territorial designation as with Scottish chiefs. Having the article say "Netherby Hall was the Grahams' official residence, but Alastair Graham and his family lived in... Barford House" is incorrect, as Netherby Hall was the home of the head of the family (i.e. the baronet himself) and Hugh Graham, as second son, would inherit neither the title nor property. The fourth baronet was his elder brother, as the Graham baronets article indicates (see Burke's Peerage, 107th edition, vol. 2, for their pedigree). At any rate, the source cited (Brennan's "Evelyn Waugh: Fictions, Faith and Family") merely mentions that Alastair Graham's family lived at Barford House, Netherby Hall not being relevant (which makes perfect sense, it not being Hugh Graham's property and therefore not the place where his son was raised, even if he very likely visited his relatives there). 78.144.67.74 (talk) 23:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

After 1933
The text currently reads:
 * During World War II, Graham was attached to the US Navy.


 * From 1933 he lived as a recluse on the Welsh Coast, at Plas-y-Wern Lodge, Gilfachrheda. Graham died in 1982.

These two statements appear contradictory, as I can't imagine serving either in the UK or US navies as a recluse. But perhaps Graham's "attachment" to the US Navy was purely romantic? It seems Graham was gay, though of course the Daily Mail cannot be regarded as a reliable source. But the word "gay" is nowhere used in the present distinctly unsatisfactory article. The DM also says that that Graham bought Plas-y-Wern Lodge in 1936 rather than 1933. Thomas Peardew (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I think the weight of evidence - he was 'gay'. More importantly - I agree with the individual who ? the image - it could be any young person IMHO - and I have seen images of Graham as an older man - cannot attest this looks like him even slightly. BeingObjective (talk) 23:50, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Photo Dispute
I have seen images of this individual as an adult - I agree the posted images is very dubious. BeingObjective (talk) 23:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The precise source of the photograph of the young man reported as Graham - is not clear - I have seen a number of images of this individual as a much older adult, there are images with him and Waugh also - and I am unsure this image of a very young man is actually Graham - I think it best removed until someone more rigorous than I am can find an image of him as an adult. This is in Wikimedia - but there is not serious provenance that I could see... BeingObjective (talk) 23:46, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

New Photo - but it states 1904.
I had a WIKIDRAMA episode over the pic., and it was finally changed and I do think this is AHG - though the image stated 1904 - well, AHG would have been a baby - unless the caption is incorrect. It is more 1920s obviously. If someone has a really good image - it would be better - the old image was likely not this man - any help? BeingObjective (talk) 02:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)