Talk:Albany, New York

GA check
I am working my way through the Good articles listed at Places; having a quick look to see if they still meet the Good article criteria. I have landed on this article. After I've had a quick look, I'll leave a note here indicating if I have concerns or not.

In general, I see the process as this: 1) Give the article a quick look to see if there are obvious issues: maintenance tags, unsourced sections, excessive media, etc, resolving any minor issues as I do so; 2) If I have concerns, open a GAR to see how serious those concerns are, resolving them myself if they are not serious; 3) If during the GAR I feel that there is significant work to be done (more than I can or am willing to do myself), I will put the GAR on hold and notify the main contributors.

My aim and intention is to keep the article listed - I would rather the article was improved and kept listed than the article is delisted. Where a delisting seems likely due to the amount or nature of work needed being greater than I am able or willing to do alone, and the main contributors are unavailable or unable for whatever reason to do the work, then appropriate WikiProjects will be notified at least seven days before a delisting would take place.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  21:32, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * This is a very well researched and attractively presented article, with a professional level of prose. I don't have any serious concerns; however, points for consideration:
 * At 61 kB (10142 words) of "readable prose", the article is over the limit of the average concentration span so is demanding a lot of the reader, and has exceeded what is generally considered WP:TOOBIG for Wikipedia. Long articles can be off-putting for a number of readers; some people may not engage with the article due to its size, or find it tiresome to navigate for the information they want. Some serious consideration could be given to trimming this to a manageable size in order to encourage more readers to engage with it, and to make it more manageable and enjoyable for those readers who do engage with it. To balance that, there are times when an article's size is justified by the depth, range and complexity of the topic. However, to put it into context, Bulgaria is 44 kB (6953 words), China is 65 kB (10266 words), and Malaysia is 52 kB (8281 words).
 * The article is richly illustrated. However, thought could be given to how helpful many of these images are: there are three images crammed into the Transport section, giving us illustrations of the airport, a station, and the port, each of which has their own article, which a reader could visit if they want to know what the airport or station look like. WP:MOSIM advices that images should not sandwich text - something that happens in several places. Some reduction of images might be useful.
 * The WP:Lead would benefit form some attention. There are several short paragraphs, and the information may not be presented in the best order. MOS:INTRO advises that the opening paragraph should define the topic. When asked to describe the essential points of Albany, that it is one of the oldest surviving settlements from the original thirteen colonies is perhaps more important than that population was 97,856 in 2010.
 * ✅ Though I feel the above points somewhat distract from what is otherwise an excellent article, they are debatable editorial points, and are not serious enough to further question the listing.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  18:30, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Albany, NY Fire Department Suggestion
Can someone please help link to this orphaned article? Gbawden (talk) 07:18, 6 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I have added a link to Template:Albany, New York, which is at the bottom of the article. --Albany NY (talk) 18:46, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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Needs Updating
I don't have time right now to gather the references to update this article, but in case someone else can get to it, I'm noting that the information about the public and charter schools is out of date. Several more charter schools have been closed in the last few years and according to the school district enrollment is increasing in their schools is increasing because of these closures, as well as increases in the school age population. Perhaps it would be better to eliminate such facts rather than have data that needs frequent updating to stay accurate.samtha25 (talk) 19:19, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, it is grossly out of date and the city school district's *increase* in enrollment is dramatic. Will hunt down some refs. DMorpheus2 (talk) 18:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Done DMorpheus2 (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Montage
What's the reasoning for removing the montage? I don't think age really matters, the (blocked) editor is throwing out the baby with the bathwater on this. It's not as if the skyline has been drastically altered.

If the disruptive editor keeps this up I will escalate the situation to ANI or SPI. Buffaboy talk 23:18, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2015
The article states that "Beverwijck" translates as "Beaver District" in English. That is not correct. It is a literal translation of the words "bever" and "wijck" (modern Dutch: wijk), but Beverwijck was named after its Dutch counterpart in the province of North Holland and that name has nothing to do with beavers. You may check this reading the history of the Dutch village of Beverwijk.

82.95.79.140 (talk) 07:35, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Padlock-silver-open.svg Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. sst✈(discuss) 04:30, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Bias in intro section?
Much of the text in the introduction section sounds like it was written as a promotion for Albany. Such examples include "It marshalled the power of immigrants and their descendants in both cities", " Albany is known for its rich history, commerce, culture, architecture, and institutions of higher education", and "Albany has been a center of higher education for over a century", whatever that means. (Maybe define the meaning of "center"?) Also, there are several paragraphs of "Albany had the first x" between citations 11 & 12 that aren't cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:E488:5500:C132:6DBD:F85D:9AFA (talk) 05:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. It really should include the popular image of Albany as the USA's center of political corruption DMorpheus2 (talk) 15:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Fortune 500 headquarters
The second paragraph of this article is mostly incorrect. I am certain that most of the companies listed here (merrill lynch, american express, goldman sachs, general electric) are not headquartered in Albany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.252.38.101 (talk) 13:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

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The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the. Community Tech bot (talk) 03:51, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Seal of Albany, New York.svg

Dubious elevation
Currently the info box says
 * Lowest elevation (Sea level (at the Hudson River))	0 ft (0 m)

I'm deleting this because its location on the Hudson River is not at sea level (if it were, the river would not flow to the sea). Hopefully someone can find a source with the correct info (and check if the figure for highest elevation is correct). Loraof (talk) 19:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Belatedly


 *  &#119980; &#120084;  00:14, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I noticed 2 feet as its lowest elevation. The Poughkeepsie article states a zero elevation, so there seems to be a pattern of using the river as a zero datum. 68.196.165.94 (talk) 01:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC)