Talk:Alcohol consumption by youth in the United States

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"Underage drinking in the United States is a prevalent issue that occurs in most young adults' lives."

This is meaningless and it is obviously false! "Most young adults" doesn't refer to US young adults and it's completely unquantitative. Suggestions? --pianoface 12:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I am removing the above statement because of this longstanding concern. If it can be cited, which I doubt, it should be returned. - Freechild 04:54, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Article is already included here -Thebdj 16:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I figured this was a more robust article. I felt the the driniking age info mentioned above was not very appropriate on a world-wide list when other countries were left out, so I created this page which should provide more detail. If the label needs to stay, let me know. Otherwise, I'll delete in a week or so.

Cheers,

Joe

(Radio-x 22:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC))

"Police are usually moderately tolerant of underage drinking provided that the drinkers are not in violation of other crimes while drinking. Police are even more tolerant if the drinking occurs indoors on private property."

This is a very unprofessional paragraph. It's such a general statement and there's literally no way at all to prove it's authenticity. I live in a small town that employs way more officers than necessary, and because they don't have much else to do they lick their chops when busting kids for underages. They'll bust entire parties because kids are drinking. I just don't think you can generally say that police are "moderately tolerant" of underage drinking. Maybe where that person is from they are, but to include such information in a wikipedia article is not appropriate. Mankind716 01:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Mankind716

The 'shoulder tap' is much more commonly called 'fishing'

Unsourced material
I have removed the unsourced content of this article. Unfortunately, this consisted of the entire article, leaving nothing but the category and cleanup tags. Feel free to put whichever portions back you can find sources for. --Xyzzyplugh 20:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * At first I was going to revert your change. However, having read the deleted text, I can see your point now... Urgh. DWaterson 23:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

While I found this article informative, I was unsatisfied with the lack of effort and attention paid to the fate of sellers who happen to sell to a minor. I manage a liquor store, and recently sold to a minor, unconsciously of course. While I kick myself in the ass for doing it, it was a freak accident, an honest mistake that could have happened to anyone. Unfortunately, the state doesn't see it that way. I had to plea to a disorderly conduct charge and pay a $350 fine. I am currently trying to make a case out of this, as in my opinion, these kinds of sting operations violate the Fourteenth Amendment rights of anyone who sells alcohol or tobacco. As American citizens, we are all given equal protection rights, and it isn't right that we're vulnerable to legal consequences that employees in other retail positions (that don't sell alcohol or tobacco) simply are not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.140.103 (talk • contribs)


 * As much as I'm personally opposed to 21 as a legal purchase and consumption age for alcohol, arguing the 14th isn't going to fly. Otherwise a firearms dealer could escape legal repercussions for selling to a convicted violent felon.  Otherwise, I do find the use of under-21 decoys to be underhanded and unethical. Lothar76 (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Recent conviction in Virginia
Two parents are going to jail (27 months) for serving alcohol inside their house at their sons birthday. Mom served kids booze, will now serve time, (Article by Daniela Deane, The Washington Post, June 10, 2007) Covergaard 08:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Connecticut prohibits possession of alcohol by minors, effectively prohibiting consumption
Hartford Informer Article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.176.52 (talk) 23:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

source?
where does this statement come from, "Students at these universities are generally at odds with law enforcement and show little respect for police..." I think the generalization of several million students showing "little respect for police" is a bit extreme, unless there is some source. Rugz (talk) 21:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 02:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Wisconsin Drinking Laws
I would like opinions in Favor (F) or Non-Favor (N-F). Please indicate at start of opinion. Use only one (1) colon when sharing opinion (each time).

Projected Text Information: In Wisconsin, it is legal for citizens under the age of 21 to consume alcohol with the supervision of an adult above the age of 21.

California Drinking Laws
According to the graphic, consumption by minors is not prohibited in California. However, SECTION 11999(e) of CALIFORNIA CODES HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE seems to differ: "e) The Legislature has determined that the purchase, possession, or use of alcohol by persons under 21 years of age is unlawful." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.233.99.107 (talk) 04:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm beginning to suspect that an employee at HHS isn't taking due care in preparing the consumption map. We might need to make one of our own that is more accurate. Lothar76 (talk) 18:36, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * California Business and Professions Code Section 25657-25667 makes it very clear that underage possesion of alcohol is illegal. As a high school student researching an end-of-the-year project on underage alcohol consumption and prevention, I think someone should just remove this map altogether; it's definitely not correct. Unsigned — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.35.32 (talk) 19:11, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Synthesis
"Young adulthood is a stage of life marked by change and exploration. People move out of their parents’ homes and into dormitories or houses with peers. They go to college, begin to work full-time, and form serious relationships. They explore their own identities and how they fit in the world. The roles of parents weaken and the influences of peers gain greater strength." ...this paragraph reads like a high school essay, and its vague generalities are almost entirely unsourced. GenericGabriel (talk) 01:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The sentence sucks
In the United States, the several States of the United States r....

WTF?

"Appeal" section
Removed this section entirely. Whole thing reads like it was written by a sixth grader, and the author's talk page is covered with several years of complaints of vandalism.

Young adults, in particular college students, may see alcohol as a luxurious drink. It is certainly positioned as illegal due to the drinking age, making the beverage all the more perceived as desirable. Just like a child growing up, he/she is told what not to do, yet they do it anyway and get into trouble. Why? Because doing what you supposedly can't is like beating the system and proving "them" wrong. Just like a child, a young adult wants to prove that they can do it and make that step into adulthood by holding their own booze. They may feel a sense of respect, or maybe just a headache. - by user 155.247.166.31

yeah. snip snip. Pinochet (3) (talk) 01:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Vodka eyeballing
This article was just created on June 6, 2010. While there are a fairly significant amount of sources, it appears to be mainly a drinking trend among youth. The sources are probably also more indicative of a media feeding frenzy than something more noteworthy. Google trends also seems to indicate little more than media hype as well. The bottom line -- I think this article can be summed up into one or two sentences and inserted into here, or another suitable article if someone suggests one. But, Wikipedia is not urban dictionary, and shouldn't contain articles on every single, stupid teenage fad that comes up. WTF? (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge possibly, but not into this article as it is not an exclusively american practice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.58.51 (talk) 14:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Request for Feedback and Editing of Related Article
Hi all. I have a student that has composed a significant article on the Legal Drinking Age Controversy in the United States. The article needs some large improvements, but it's something that the student is not prepared to take on during the summer term. Because we both believe that the article is important to the knowledge on Wikipedia, we would love it if other editors helped shape the article up before it is moved to the mainspace. Thank you for your time! Dylanstaley (talk) 20:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Broken Source
University of Montana source (19 at time of writing) is a dead link.

http://www.epi.umn.edu/alcohol/facts/facthow.shtm
 * Confirm the link is dead. Pointed to an archived copy of the link. Jhowar59 (talk) 09:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

The following first paragraph is utter non-sense
Teenagers and young adults typically get their alcohol from persons 21 or older. The second most common source for high school students is someone else under age 21, and the third most common source for 18- to 20-year-old adults is buying it from a store, bar or restaurant (despite the fact that such sales are against the law).

The above statement is without redeeming qualities, for the third option is to obtain alcohol is to purchase it. The seller is either 21 or over, fitting into the first category, or the seller is under 21 meaning that the 2nd option applies. Now if there are magic machines that sell alcohol without a seller being present then I would like to know where such machines exist. This section needs to be re-written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.130.171.8 (talk) 01:21, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

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