Talk:Alcohol powder

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Misc
What is wrong with these kids in the Netherlands. No government is that stupid to allow a company to get around alcohol regulations with an argument that it is powder. The laws in the U.S. take this into account. I'm unsure on the Netherlands specifically, but I gurantee these press releases will just anger the government and get this product shut down.


 * You seem to know the subject well and you contributions are welcome. But please mention your sources. Especially, don't remove information without a very good reason. It seems to be a fact that in most countries the powder doesn't count as alcohol legally. Are there no news sources in the US that have mentioned the product? --Sasper 07:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering if you know or are associated with the Booz2go creators? I would love to get into contact with them. There are no countries that I am aware of whose statutes are so sloppy as to exclude powder and only apply to liquid. Maybe the Netherlands, but in every other developed country, specifically the U.S. the statutes read "liquid or solid" of a certain alcohol percentage. I am an attorney in the United States and have done all the research regarding this product. It is clear these students, who issued the false and incorrect press release don't know what they are talking about. They could also likely be subject to numerous legal consequences for their false statements in the press release. They never invented this product, it was invented in the mid 1960's. There are numerous patents to prove this. No one has addressed this issue, but I suggest they stop puting these statements out about wanting to sell to kids. Subyou had the same ideas about getting around the tax and the age limit and of course the government had something to say. You have quoted numerous statements of law without sites or background. A blog or a false press release do not count as reputable citation. If you want some legal citation to a few countries "alcohol" (or "distilled spirits")definitions by statute I will be happy to provide such.


 * No, of course I am not associated with any of these producers or inventors. Their name and home town is mentioned in the article (and in some of the sources) so I think you can find them fairly easily. I read about the Dutch product and then I did some research because I never heard about alcohol powder before. As the German source (the food chemist) says there is a US patent from 1969, I also wondered if the Dutch just pretended to invent the stuff in order to create PR. Unfortunately, the only scientific source I could find is that German chemist. Another source would be good. I have also wondered if it would really be true that alcohol laws don't apply, but that was what I got from the sources. Subyou (in Germany) created some stir-up and public debate, but seemingly they were not submit to alcohol laws. I am sure the law would be changed if their product became widespread, but most Germans don't seem to know it. Another drawback for popularity is that quite a big bag of powder is needed to create a drink (60 g, probably five table spoons or so) and it probably tastes rather bad. I was sceptical to some of your edits because I suspected you were representing the US developer you mention, but as you are a lawyer it explains the matter. --Sasper 01:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Pulver Spirits Site
The link to Pulver Spirits is broken points goes to a domain registrar now. I'm not an experienced editor. Is that good enough reason to just edit out the link75.163.107.238 (talk) 12:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It appears to be working now, not that it has anything in the way of useful content. Everything seems to e marked as coming soon. Anyone know if the site had any usefull/interesting information before it went down. Chazchaz101 (talk) 08:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Outdated
This article is extremely outdated, it talks about powdered alcohol to be released in 2010 when it's 2012 at the moment, not to mention I've come back to this article numerous times since 2007 and nothing much has changed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.123.246.67 (talk) 23:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Now this comment is extremely outdated. It's 2013! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.223.230.201 (talk) 22:48, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Now these comments are extremely outaded! It's 2014! Although the mention of Palcohol is up to date. 198.134.143.192 (talk) 19:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Now all of these comments are extremely outdated! It's 2016, don't you people have a calendar? 79.223.20.87 (talk) 11:13, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Now the previous comment is extremely postdated. It's 2015, doesn't the previous commenter have a calendar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.32.129.202 (talk) 23:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Fix it, instead of whining!

Now all of these comments are extremely outdated! It's 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.85.77 (talk) 06:57, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Removed
this needs a citation:

However, 2-Methyl-2-butanol is one of few alcohols potent enough for practical use. The potency allows a dosage to be delivered in a small number of capsules, which effectively eliminates the burning taste.

or it belongs on erowid. practical use my ass.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:16, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I found an article on this topic in the news: "States rush to ban POWDERED alcohol before it even hits the shelves"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2875675/Powdered-alcohol-Not-fast-lawmakers-say.html#ixzz3M5QzANBv — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.90.13.195 (talk) 18:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Astronaut wine
So this is really a thing? I thought it was a joke when I saw it in an episode of Two and a Half Men. Should this be a cultural reference? --The_Iconoclast (talk) 16:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete
I have removed the tag that had the following content atop the article, as the matter has been somewhat addressed. There are additional notions for expansion, so posting content of the tag below. North America1000 11:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC) "The 'chemical properties' of alcohol powder - no reference to odour, colour, only a passing reference to the elimination of 'the burning taste', no reference to reactivity, flammability, energy density etc.etc."

Circle-red.svg
Is this picture of a red circle with a black border a good representation for a cross section of an alcohol capsule? I think it does not provide any value to the article but instead bears the risk that if someone ever decides that red circles should look different (e.g. no border) then this image would not fit the article any more. 137.226.68.247 (talk) 11:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)