Talk:Alevi history

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KIZILBAS OR ALEVI'S ARE PART OF THE MUSLIM OR ISLAMIC FAITH. **Unsubstantiated remarks

THESE GROUPS POTRAY THEMSELVES AS A BRANCH OF THE ISLAMIC FAITH BECAUSE OF INSTITUTIONAL RELIGIOUS SUPPORT TO THE SUNNI-HANEFI SECT IN TURKEY.

THE KIZILBAS OR ALEVI GROUP HAVE FACED MANY ATROCITIES IN OTTOMAN AND THE PRESENT DAY TURKISH REPUBLIC BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH AND WAY OF LIFE.

THEY ARE IDENTIFIED BY MANY INTELLECTUALS IN TURKEY AS THE ONLY TRULY TURKISH (CULTURALLY AND ETHNICALLY) IN TURKEY.

IT IS WRONG TO PERCEVE THIS GROUP AS A BRANCH OF ISLAM. **Unsubstantiated remarks (They are the followers of Ismail I of Safaviyya i. e. belong to the same islamic tariqa 68.100.172.139 (talk) 15:19, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

THEY ARE IDENTIFIED AS MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION IS MUSLIM AND ADHERENT TO THE RELIGION OF ISLAM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.28.71 (talk) 21:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The relation between Kurdish (Dimli) people and Alevi should at least be mentioned. Alevi are sometimes considered to be a "people" and Qizilbash are also identified by some as a religion! I don't pretend to have the expertise to sort this out, but someone who does should discuss the claims. Mewnews (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)]]


 * Kurds are mentioned eleven times in the article. It also touches on several aspects of Alevi identity (i.e. are they an ethnic group, are they a religious denomination, etc). Do expand or clarify, if you think it's important. Q·L·1968 ☿ 11:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I removed "with most still having red hair in their gene pools." from the part

"After the Kızılbaş lost their power in Anatolia, they are assumed to have merged into the Anatolian Alevis. Kurdish Alevis are sometimes still called Kızılbaş. Even as far east as Afghanistan and Pakistan, many Shias have "Qizilbash" as their family names, with most still having red hair in their gene pools"

Qizilbash (Redheads) refers to the headgears they wore,not their haircolor as is also said in this sentence "In the early 16th century, a militant ghulat Shia order emerged, called Kızılbaş or 'Redheads' after their distinctive headgear"

I have never heard of a prevalence of red hair among qizilbashi/alevis. I think someone added this later as a joke?Ibrahim4048 (talk) 22:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Massacres
They should be placed to a GENERAL PERSECUTION page together with OTTOMANS 68.100.172.139 (talk) 15:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Source
For current position in Turkey Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

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