Talk:Alexz Johnson

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I'm reading the above notice and the associated policies. I'd like to think that this article is in compliance and is moving further in the right direction, over time.

I think that the article is reasonably complete at this point - but with Alexz, so much is happening (TV, film, singing, songwriting) that it's hard to stay up-to-date.

Will soon need to add more on:

(1) Her solo CD (apart from the show): how is it going, and what is the release date?

(2) Any new movie roles - rumours here and there of some more of these. A number of movies are being shot in Vancouver these days, and that's her home town, so there are possibilities.

(3) Season 3 of Instant Star will soon be in production - will need to add more on that as it becomes available.

(4) Sales figures for the CD's (will see if any info is available from the Orange Record Label).

One question (which I may ask on CTV's Instant Star forum): Many people say that they keep hitting the repeat button on Alexz's songs, and that they leave the CD in their players for long periods of time. Why?

For my part, It's because of the precise control she has over her voice and her attention to getting the details right (in part, because of her opera training) - that plus everything else we might expect in a singer. She just takes all this to a different level. Of course, that's a point of view that I can't put in the article itself.

JD_Fan, Ottawa, Ontario (June 15/06) Updates done on Aug. 4/06

Further edits: Aug. 18/06

Somebody put in a paragraph concerning Alexz's dating life, but with no attribution to a reliable source - mentioned that "somebody in the family said". Also, the edit was full of spelling errors, which reduces the credibility of this source still further. I'm not sure that the Wikipedia is the place to discuss someone's dating life, and if there are any references they must be absolutely verifiable.

User:JD_Fan

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Because she is awesome. (Unsigned comment, not sure who said this.)

The info about instant star episodes on ctv.ca is incomplete, it should note that you have to have be in Canada to view the videos due to copyright restrictions.

Could you clarify this? Is it impossible to view the videos from other jurisdictions (i.e., is access blocked), or is it technically possible but with some copyright concerns?

User:JD_Fan

Finally did updates to the section on Song Samples. Sorry for taking so long to get to this!

User:JD_Fan 18 April 07

I'm OK (actually pleased) with this article being assessed as "B" class on the quality scale, given the limited amount of information available so far. I'm looking to improve the article gradually over time, and would welcome anyone else pitching in on this! Thanks to all those who have helped out so far. And thanks to those who have been vigilant in trying to keep this article free from vandalism - that can be a bit of a chore in the Wikipedia context.

I wrote to Epitome Productions for more info on Instant Star and Alexz Johnson, but have received no reply at this point. I'm hoping at least to get some high-quality photos under a Creative Commons licence.

I lost some of my motivation to work on all this when they weren't showing Instant Star in Canada for the longest time, but now it has started up again, so there is more to work with.

User:JD_Fan 3 June 07

As per the guidelines above, I removed the "personal myspace" section. It's true that a video did surface in which Johnson stated she did not have a myspace page. As for the supposed later interview done in 2007, however, without a source or link for the interview, the myspace page stated to belong to Alexz could easily be a fake. Further, the tone of the section was not at all sufficient for a wiki entry. --Happyberry04 07:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

On the MySpace, there is now an official Alexz Johnson site, as confirmed by Stephen Stohn, the Executive Producer for Instant Star, so we're OK there now.

I'll continue trying to find pictures that can be used under a Creative Commons license, probably Attribution ShareAlike. I did get these for other articles I have been working on, and we may yet get them for this article. I'll send reminders. This is always a slow process.

The article needs some updates here and there (e.g., on the Season 3 soundtrack) - will be working on this.

User:JD_Fan 3 Sept 07

Pictures Now Available
We have now obtained a set of very high quality pictures from Epitome Pictures, the producers of Instant Star. We currently have 8 pictures, with file sizes totalling 90 mb.

I will upload these into the Wikimedia Commons and make sure that all the necessary licencing permissions are in place (Attribution ShareAlike), and will then incorporate the pictures into the articles.

Thanks very much to Epitome Pictures for providing these photos!

JD Fan 20:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the Delay!
Sorry for the delay in getting the Alexz and Instant Star pictures into the articles. I have to admit that I got away from Wikipedia work for a while, mainly because of pressures at work, and also because I became discouraged by various deletion-related hassles.

But now I'm back at it (with a set of edits today), and will soon upload the pictures, with the specific permissions required.

JD Fan (talk) 23:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

THANKS VERY MUCH TO EPITOME PICTURES FOR THE PHOTOS AND THE SPECIFIC LICENCING PERMISSIONS!
Thanks to Epitome for providing the pictures, and thanks again for providing specific permission for each of the pictures under an SA-3 licence. A bit of work for all concerned, but well worth it!

JD Fan (talk) 03:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Article Traffic Statistics
52,508 page views in June, 2008. Not bad!

For details, please see:

JD Fan (talk) 14:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Updates Needed
Updates are needed here and there through the article, e.g., in the section on Song Samples + adding more on the new album (which will have to wait until it comes out) - a New Year's project!

In my opinion, we have pretty good photos already (thanks to Epitome Pictures), but some people feel that we need new pictures (reflecting her current style). I'll write to Epitome Pictures again, to see what else they have, and may also check with Alexz' management to see if they have anything further. This sort of thing always takes time, so I'll try to get these requests out before Christmas, if possible.

Thanks again to Epitome Pictures for all the help they provided earlier!

JD Fan (talk) 00:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

For the future, it will be interesting to see her as the telepathic Saturn Girl on Smallville. She's probably very well suited for this role, because for a telepath, so much will be communicated through the eye expressions - a strong point in her acting. We'll see.

JD Fan (talk) 01:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

She has appeared on the series Blue. Since that is originally a web series, or maybe only a web series, I was unsure of where that would fit. --Stubborn Myth (talk) 07:13, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It is 2019 and this page has not been frequently updated enough, and her fourth studio album is about to come out, also the sections need to be redone in my opinion. For example when I got to this page the current 2016-present is in bad shape, I personally feel that 2016-present should be 2017-present to emphasize A Stranger Time, and her fourth studio album.

Edits to the Lead-In
Did some edits to the lead-in to shorten the sentences and make the tone more neutral. Some mixed feelings about dropping the specific reference to her being Canadian: in principle, it's good to note that, but it's there throughout the article + the show was seen in over 100 countries + this should be evident from her winning a Gemini Award, if people are curious enough to follow that link.

JD Fan (talk) 16:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Tags
Moon-sunrise left me a message at my talk page asking for a third opinion on the tag in this article. The short answer is, yes, the first two tags are both valid. There are multiple long unsourced sections that read like they're just a personal essay (one editor's idea of Johnson's career, not backed up by any sources). In this case, the missing sources and OR problems go hand-in-hand. It's especially problematic because this is a BLP; with other articles it would be ok to slap tags on the bad sections and wait years for someone to come along and clean them up, but with a BLP it's generally more of an issue and should be time-sensitive; if references and stuff aren't added within a couple days we might have to majorly trim it.

I'm not sure the cleanup tag is needed; formatting seems ok for the most part, it needs a copyedit for grammar and stuff but I don't see major cleanup issues (now that I have fixed some image formatting problems). I think any remaining cleanup issues will probably get dealt with as a side effect of dealing with the citation and OR issues, and after that all it'll need is a copyedit. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 20:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Note on Sources / References
We used to have a lot more references and footnotes. In fact, at one point, virtually all the sources were documented.

Here's what happened:

(1) Along the way, various people deleted references here and there - don't ask me why.

(2) People entering new information often did not not document their sources.

(3) Some of the original sources are now hard to find, e.g., the Alexz bio from the Orange Record Label - the source of some of the basic facts at the beginning of the article.

In theory, we could go back into the history of the article and ferret out references that are now missing. But this is a labour of Sisyphus that I'm not too keen on doing. I don't mind doing some clean-up edits and entering new information as it becomes available, but I don't want to chase down references that were originally there and which were subsequently deleted.

I'm also getting a bit discouraged by the deletion of pictures. I went to a lot of trouble to get properly licenced photos from Epitome Pictures. If someone wants to replace them with other properly licenced photos, then OK, but please don't delete them unless you have a better alternative.

JD Fan (talk) 02:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Scream 4
Stop adding this to her page. Alexz is not in talks for Scream 4. This is just another stupid rumor like Land of Canaan and Halloween remake. Reports have said that the script is not finished and they are only in negotiations to get Neve Campbelle back and Courtney Cox and David Arquette are the only confirmed cast members. They even denied the rumors of AnnaLynne McCord stating that the script is not finished. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.231.18.70 (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Lead image

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was Use the featured picture Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Please see this discussion (centralized at FPC talk) regarding the lead image. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC) Since it's apparently not kosher to centralize a discussion: This image of the cast of Instant Star shows Alexz Johnson looking very much like she does in the white balance edit. Most of the images I found through a Google search have similar colors. That, to me, shows that the white balance edit is an accurate representation of the character. Unless someone can provide evidence that this is not the case, the white balance edit should be the version in the article. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Restarting this discussion as it's been changed again, and i'm reverting while directing people to here to actually discuss it. The so called White Balance edit is an inaccurate image, it's what someone here on wikipedia thinks the colours should look like if the image was taken under different lighting. The shot was shot under warm-coloured lighting, giving the look that was intended, and provided to us by the studio, also it is a photograph of an actress in character, so the only people who know what it 'really should look like' are the creators, ie the people who gave us the image. Please refrain from editing the lead image here to an inaccurate representation. This is not what we do here, and looking at just one other television show I can instantly find 3 other examples of how we accept the lighting of the image that is provided by the studio, Ryan Atwood, Julie Cooper and Taylor Townsend. JFitch  (talk)  16:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Regardless of how the studio took the image, the white-balance adjusted image is a featured picture, the current image is not. That surely means the adjusted image is an improvement on a photograph that seemingly misrepresented its subject... The current image (on the article) also states quite clearly in it's description that "This file has been superseded by File:2099725 FreightElevator 135wb.jpg. It is recommended to use the other file.". Seems pretty clear cut to me I have to say...  Nik the  stoned  13:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * (Additionally) re: those other linked images - I personally feel a couple of them should be adjusted also!  Nik the  stoned  13:32, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Simply saying that it is an adjustment so therefore it must be better is not true at all. The original image is not technically inaccurate. The second is being listed as a white balance fix, which is something that we would do to fix images where a mistake was made when taking it. That is not what has happened, the studio has chosen a specific way to represent that charachter (It is an image of the actress in charachter) and we accept that as being accurate, as it is to all intents and purpose upto them what the character looks like. Just because one is featured doesn't mean it is better. You refer to other images being adjusted? Do you adjust the colours of album covers from blue to green? of course not. Essentially that is the same thing as here, we have been presented with it exactly as it is and it is not for us to decide that we 'prefer it if it looked another way' JFitch   (talk)  16:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that we should contradict the decision that made the white balance a featured picture, and added the superseded notice to the current image. Also, I disagree with the argument that the image should appear as the producers intended, this article is about the actress, not the character. 117Avenue (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Then find an image of the actress as herself. This is a picture of her in character, and the caption accurately represents that. You cannot argue with the fact that it is her in charachter. JFitch   (talk)  14:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am. You claim that File:2099725 FreightElevator 135.jpg is an image of Jude Harrison, but File:2099725 FreightElevator 135wb.jpg is not, who is it of then? Also, why would I go look for another image, when a featured picture is already available? Even if another image has already been uploaded, we would still want to use the featured picture, because it is better, it was professionally shot, and professionally edited. I'm sure you don't want one I took with my camera phone, and slapped on without editing. 117Avenue (talk) 03:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 2099725 FreightElevator 135wb.jpg is her in charachter too. Just because someone has changed the colours so that it's no longer an accurate image doesn't mean she is suddenly out of charachter. And your arguement for the picture is contrary to what has happened. You say of course we would use it as it is professionally shot and professionally edited!...Well this is true, however the WB isn't the wb is what was professionally shot and edited, then re-edited by an amature to look how they want it to. Your arguement is correct, why would we change what was done professionally! JFitch   (talk)  11:24, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I think it's just that she needs a new lead image, that correctly represents her today. Other artists get theirs updated every time a new album is out/every time they tour. The lead image is 4-5 years old. She's not Jude. We just all need to agree on a new lead image. Musicfreak7676 (talk) 17:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, when new images get uploaded, they get used. But how do we get new images? She doesn't even have an active website anymore. All we can do is argue between the two same images. 117Avenue (talk) 05:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Her official website is coming back with the launch of her new EP/Single. Couldn't we use her new IMBD image from Jess? I have it if we want to use it. I can even ask Jess if we can use it? Musicfreak7676 (talk) 16:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Who's Jess? 117Avenue (talk) 02:45, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd guess it's Jessica Earnshaw, as per this. Nik the  stoned  09:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's Jessica Earnshaw, her friend and a professional photographer.Musicfreak7676 (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you could anyone in her publicity or management crews to properly follow the instructions at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Otrs, that would be great. 117Avenue (talk) 13:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I have contact with her manager and label rep, if that counts for anything? Musicfreak7676 (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Request for comment
What image should be used in the infobox on this article? File:2099725 FreightElevator 135.jpg, which was submitted by the studio, or File:2099725 FreightElevator 135wb.jpg, which has received featured picture status? 117Avenue (talk) 22:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Featured picture. The white balance image has been chosen by the community to receive featured picture status, and is thus the better image, and should be used here. 117Avenue (talk) 22:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Featured picture. The white balance image is a better image to use.Coaster92 (talk) 05:00, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Featured picture84.106.26.81 (talk) 11:34, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Featured picture. It is a newer version of the original with touched up white balance. Overall better quality images should be used over lower quality images. Cocoaguy ここがいい 19:01, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Original Image Only, Other is inaccurate The featured picture is not accurate. It is someone's idea of what they think it should look like under different lighting. People referring to white balance don't understand. This isn't a white balance issue at all. It's a lighting choice made by the studio in order to represent their own character. (It is a photograph of Jude Harrison) We here have no right whatsoever to tell them that what they tell us their own character looks like is wrong. We don't do this here on wikipedia. We do correct images based on technical flaws and problems, This is neither. If you don't like the picture then by all means find another. But you can't just 'create' something as has been done with the FP here. JFitch   (talk)  22:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * To say that the FP version is "inaccurate" is, IMHO, itself inaccurate. It's a different artistic choice to be sure, but it still shows Alexz Johnson as Jude Harrison. Nobody has digitally manipulated it to change the hair or skin color, or the clothes or background, etc etc. Had any of those types of changes been done, then the image would indeed no longer be accurate.  howcheng  {chat} 02:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't think the skin colour has been changed? Really? JFitch   (talk)  15:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not like File:OJ Simpson Newsweek TIME.png.  howcheng  {chat} 01:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Original picture: as I couldn't think of a reason for any of the picture, I vote for one WP:ILIKE more for aesthetic reasons. &mdash; Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 07:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Original: Just my preference. Looks fine as is. Not sure why it needed to be altered. Quinn &#10025; STARRY NIGHT  16:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Because it had a technical flaw known as a colour cast, which in this case you can think of as a uniform layer of yellow/orange overlaid on the entire image. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Calling it a technical flaw is incorrect. Being out of focus, or framed badly, or over/underexposed is a technical flaw. This is a deliberate choice made by the studio as to how to represent their charachter, it is certainly not a technical flaw. JFitch   (talk)  16:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You have been able to provide absolutely no evidence of that. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 17:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Featured picture as per previous community consensus (as also stated by 117Avenue). Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 15:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Featured picture - image was altered before promotion for a reason.  Nik the  stoned  14:47, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

File:2099725 FreightElevator 135wb.jpg to appear as POTD soon
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Alexandra shipp
Can someone make one for her just look at Alexandra shipp house of House of Anubis Jackgirl24 (talk) 00:43, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

So Many Bad Links
Half of the things I click on in this article just redirects me back to this article. --Stubborn Myth (talk) 07:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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