Talk:Alfonso Rodriguez Jr.

Proposal to delete
I disagree wholeheartedly with the notion that this page should deleted. News of the abduction, rape, and murder of Dru Sjodin was in the national spotlight for quite some time. Also, with the trial just getting underway now, it would be foolish to delete this article at this time. If Rodriquez is sentenced to death, I would think that the story may again return to the national spotlight. Regardless, this was a very prominent story and the fact that this is a federal trial that could end in the death penalty (the first time in North Dakota in a century) makes Rodrquez a "notable" person. --Matth e w UND (talk) 06:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How about now? What makes Alfonso Rodriguez, Jr. any more notable (enough to warrant his very own wikipedia article) than any of the other thousands of rapists, murderers, and/or mentally handicapped people living in America, sitting in her prisons, or on her death row? Are we not just giving him (and his crime) more attention than deserved? Garth of the Forest (talk) 17:13, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Merger proposal
This article provides nearly the exact information that is found in Murder of Dru Sjodin. Being that that article is called "Murder of . . ." and not just "Dru Sjodin" implies that it is about anything and anyone pertaining to the case. Alfonso Rodriguez, Jr. is yet to be claimed as notable for anything other than this murder. Hellno2 (talk) 13:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Well put.  Royal broil  12:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Disagree I agree with UND Matt. Alfonso Rodriguez jr. is notable enough known to have his own article. Being from an area of the country that hasnt had an execution in a century, his notability will increase. --Npnunda (talk) 04:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment See WP:ONEEVENT and WP:ATA. Alfonso Rodriguez so far is notable only for this single event. Hellno2 (talk) 21:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Rodriquez is notable for being sentenced to death, multiple rapes and kidnapping and Dru Sjodins murder. The article has much information as it is one of the most well known kidnapping/rape/ murderer cases of the early 21st century. He is despicable but unfortunately notable. It would also be inappropriate to include intricate details about his other crimes and upbringing in Dru's article. His future execution will likely generate much debate which would fit here better than the Dru article. There is much information about him and again he is notable/notorious. 172.56.12.89 (talk) 05:29, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge I support merging the two articles. Whether the merged article should be called Alfonso Rodriguez, Jr., or "Murder of Dru Sjodin" is debatable, but there is no need for two articles. If either one of these two people had, without this unfortunate event, been notable enough to warrant their own article prior to the event, then fine, maybe multiple articles. I agree with User: Hellno2. We can only imagine what great achievements we might have written about, with regard to the future of Dru Sjodin, had she never encountered Alfonso Rodriguez Jr. If Mr. Rondriguez had killed Hillary Clinton, or George W. Bush, then two separate articles. But ...Garth of the Forest (talk) 17:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge. I agree that we only need one article or the other. Murder of Dru Sjodin is probably the better name in the circumstances. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The OP started this discussion in 2008 and the most recent comment was in 2015. I'm not sure why this debate was never closed or resolved despite an apparent consensus to merge. I'm starting a fresh merger discussion at Talk:Murder_of_Dru_Sjodin. --Muzilon (talk) 12:02, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Improving article and it may take some time as I have limited time
I will add more references as there are many credible references available. Please do be a hit and run editor with a "Good Idea" for the "must be new because he is still an IP editor". I appreciate help as long as one takes the effort to get it right, that means do your research and talk to me and other editors here so we gain some consensus and avoid that all to often plague of Wikipedia "the edit war culture". I have been around since 06 and seek no glamour but only respect and a serious editing attitude. Thanks 172.56.12.89 (talk) 06:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC) P.S my IP changes frequently so the best way to talk with me about the article is here.